Jehovah witnesses....New Testament, explains the Old?

Question

I know that the tithe of your organization is taken from

Isa 43:10 Ye are My witnesses, saith the LORD, and My servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He: before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.


In the New Testament,
Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto Me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Thus, Jehovah of Isaiah 43, is He not also the same Person who you all are witnessing for in Acts 1; that the Lord Jesus Christ is Jehovah!!!??

oopps typo, the first line should read.....the title....

Answer 1

Yes
(to the first question in bold), although Jehovah's Witnesses prefer to refer to them as the Christian Greek Scriptures and the Hebrew-Aramaic Scriptures.

With regard to the larger issue at hand, it seems nothing short of amazing to note the straws at which trinitarianism grasps, as though a Christian could not witness two events or on behalf of two persons.

Ironically, the shaky foundations of trinitarianism rest on dubious misapplications of perhaps ten bible verses. By contrast, entire passages and important bible concepts literally require Jesus the Son to be a separate person from God the Father. Who created Jesus? To whom did Jesus pray? Who resurrected Jesus? At whose right hand does Jesus sit?


Jehovah's Witnesses believe that their worship is a restoration of biblical Christianity, as practiced by the apostles and first century Christians. They recognize Christ himself (and the apostles to a much lesser extent) as the "foundation" of true Christian worship. Of course, the bible teaches that God Himself is the "builder".

(Isaiah 28:16) Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “Here I am laying as a foundation in Zion a stone, a tried stone, the precious corner of a sure foundation.

(Acts 4:10-11) Jesus Christ the Nazarene... This is ‘the stone that was treated by you builders as of no account that has become the head of the corner.’

(Revelation 21:14) The wall of the city also had twelve foundation stones, and on them the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

(Hebrews 11:10) the city having real foundations, the builder and maker of which city is God.


Really, it is the bible rather than any human tradition, catechism, or post-biblical writing which can reveal the truth about Jesus Christ.

Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians; they teach that Christ was and is divine and of the same nature as God. What does the bible teach about Jesus?

Jehovah's Witnesses understand the bible to teach that no salvation occurs without Christ, that accepting Christ's sacrifice is a requirement for true worship, that every prayer must acknowledge Christ, that Christ is the King of God's Kingdom, that Christ is the head of the Christian congregation, that Christ is immortal and above every creature, even that Christ was the 'master worker' in creating the universe!

Jehovah's Witnesses love and respect and honor Christ. However, Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the Scriptures quite plainly demonstrate that Jesus and the Almighty are separate distinct persons, and the Almighty created Jesus as His firstborn son.

(Colossians 1:15) the firstborn of all creation

(Mark 10:18) Jesus said to him: 'Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.

(Revelation 3:14) the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God

(Philippians 2:5-6) Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God's form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God

(John 8:42) Neither have I come of my own initiative at all, but that One sent me forth

(John 12:49) I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak

(John 14:28) I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am

(1 Corinthians 15:28) But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him

(Matthew 20:23) this sitting down at my right hand and at my left is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father

(1 Corinthians 11:3) I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; ...in turn the head of the Christ is God

(John 20:17) I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.

(Deuteronomy 6:4) Jehovah our God is one Jehovah

(1 Corinthians 8:4-6) There is no God but one. For even though there are those who are called "gods," whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many "gods" and many "lords," there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him


Thanks again for an opportunity to share what the bible actually says about the distinct persons of Jesus Christ the Son and Jehovah God the Father!

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Answer 2

The witnesses of Isaiah 43:10 are ' Jacob' i.e. The people of Israel, the Jews. They are not the JW's.
In the New Testament we are told that because the Jewish people of the time rejected Jesus, the Gentile (none Jewish) believers could be 'grafted in'. This means that there are to be both Jews and non-Jews who will be chosen.
But it is not for us to state dogmatically, as I believe some do, that they know exactly who God has chosen. God calls all men and women and it depends of the response of their hearts and how that transfers into how they live their lives.

The Bible does not teach that the LORD God and Jesus are the same. See 1 Corinthians 15:24-28

(I am not a JW, in case anyone misunderstands me)

Answer 3

I'm sure you probably concur with the statements found in the Appendix of the 1961 New World Translation (green cover) on pages 1453-54 concerning Isaiah 1:24--"the [true] Lord": "This is the translation of the Hebrew expression אדון ha-A don', this being the title A don' ("Lord; Master") preceded by the Hebrew definite article ha. Although there are many lords or masters, this prefixing of the definite article before the title a don' LIMITS the application of the title TO JEHOVAH GOD..." Then they provide a concordance of all the places in the New World Translation where the name "Jehovah" occurs in the Christian Greek Scriptures. But they omit at least one: Romans 10:9! "For if you publicly declare that 'word in your own mouth,' that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved." In the Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures published by the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, 1969 (purple cover), there is a footnote that appears in connection with this verse concerning the word "Lord" used there: "9 Lord = κύριος (kyrios), אBA; אדון (ha A don'), ...Not 'Jehovah.'" So, אדון (ha-A don') is LIMITED in its use in the Bible strictly to mean Jehovah God--unless it occurs in a place that disagrees with Watchtower Theology, such as in Romans 10:9, in which case it is "Not Jehovah." Because if it were, the verse would say, "For if you publicly declare that Jesus is Jehovah, and exercise faith (believe) in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved," which is something Jehovah's Witnesses cannot do.

Answer 4

PEOPLE AND JESUS CAN ONLY WITNESS FOR THE ONE TRUE GOD John 17:3;

Rev.1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to
shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and
he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of
Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 1:3 Blessed is he that
readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep
those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

Rev.3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write;
These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the
beginning of the creation of God;

Heb.11:1-40; 12:1,2; Acts 7:1-60;

At 2007, bible in circulation in the world 396 years.

Answer 5

Jehovah is the name of the Almighty God, Jesus the Christ is the name of his son.

The witnessing work is the truth about Jehovah, and Jesus is the foremost proclaimer of this truth.

Jehovah's Witnesses is not a title it is a statement of who we are and what we do. To witness about the Christ is a conformation of our belief in his father Jehovah.

Answer 6

Acts 1:8 is establishing that Jesus is the Messiah, the anointed one, the only begotten Son of Jehovah God. (Heb 1:9)

The God of the Jews, Jehovah was well know at this time,

His Son was unknown, context shows that people needed to know the one Jehovah appointed to teach people how they could "Worship the Father in spirit and truth"

Acts 1:6 When, now, they had assembled, they went asking him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” 7 He said to them: “It does not belong to YOU to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction;

Shows that the witness about Jesus is that he is the King of God's Kingdom, and that it is the Father who has all knowledge.

Even in this context, we are pointed to Jesus' God and Father. (Eph 1:3, 17)

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Answer 7

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Col 1:16 For by him (Messiah) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

The Messiah is YHVH of the "Old Testament".

Zec 12:4 In that day, saith the LORD (Strongs yehovah:H3068) , ...

Zec 12:10 And I (Yehovah) will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me (Yehovah) whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Answer 8

No.

Jesus meant that we should continue the work he did and procliming the same message he did. What was that message? The good news of God's Kingdom.

Jehovah is the one who sent Jesus. In fact, Jesus is the Faithful Witness and we follow in his footsteps. (Rev. 1:5)

Everything Jesus said about the kingdom was not his own message, but Jehovah's.

John 5:19
Therefore, in answer, Jesus went on to say to them: “Most truly I say to you, The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he beholds the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son also does in like manner

John 5:30
I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative; just as I hear, I judge; and the judgment that I render is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me

Answer 9

We are witnesses of both--Jehovah God and Jesus Christ, because Jehovah and Jesus each bore witness to each other.

For example, Jehovah bore witness to the fact that Jesus was his Son when he spoke directly from the heavens on several occasions, saying: "This is my Son."

And, Jesus, by his entire ministry, bore witness to his Father. Because the Jewish nation was already considered to be Jehovah's Witnesses, when the Messiah came they needed to become his witnesses, too. And that is exactly what the Jewish converts to Christianity did. Christians indeed became witnesses of Jehovah and Christ.

If you read the entire book of the Acts of the apostles, you will note that even though they primarily bore witness about Jesus, they also continued to speak about Jehovah and to quote heavily from the Hebrew Scriptures that were primarily associated in the Hebrew mind with Jehovah God.

The fact is that Jehovah and Jesus are in complete union, so that it is impossible to witness to one to the exclusion of the other. That's why Jesus said that he who honors the Son honors the Father also-- not because they are the same person as Trinitarians imagine-- but because they are united with each other.

In recognition that Jesus and his Father are one in purpose, Jehovah's Witnesses are witnesses of Jehovah and Jesus Christ.

Answer 10

You will never convince the JW's who use this forum that Jesus is God, I have tried showing them inumerable scriptures to no avail. I will no longer use that abominable name they have adopted for him because it can be translated as 'demon of destruction', ehovah, or hoba meaning ruin or destruction in Hebrew and Jeh the Zoroastrian name for a djinn (or demon). Oh, by the way, it appears that the creepy JW who now poses as Cheri D has had yet another sex change.