It appears that the Russellites deceive themselves into believing that any first class ticket to eat at our most gracious and loving Captain's table, which the Lord clearly mentions here for all, and in which He paid for with His most precious blood and broken body for them too, must not be for them. They would rather, out of their religious pride and false humility, believe what the accuser of the brethren is telling them to do, spurn and waste this precious and very costly ticket given freely and defer to the Satan-inspired phoney elitists, by refusing to believe what God's Word says here and repletely tells them in so many different ways, in so many different places, yet essentially saying the same thing as the above verses. Oh, no; being hard-headed and hard-hearted, they'd rather believe that the ticket they received means that they haven't earned their way there, if there was any seats left to begin with, and they must stay in the boiler room and eat the scraps meant for peasants and dogs! How foolish! If I were the Captain, and thankfully I wouldn't ever be, I'd be highly insensed and insulted! Wouldn't you?
2007-12-31 06:23:46
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answer #1
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answered by Tom 4
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The only Jehovah's Witnesses who are entitled to partake of the bread and the wine are those of the anointed class, the 144,000. There are about 8,000 of them (2006). The number peaked at 37,732 in 1938.
However, it is worth pointing out that only those Christians who are in the New Covenant which Jesus inaugurated at the last supper and who are anointed with the Holy Spirit can take up Jesus' invitation to partake of the bread and wine when they remember him (Watchtower, 15 March 2004, pages 5 to 6). Whilst not disagreeing with the Biblical qualifications for partaking of the bread and wine, it begs the question, "So where does that leave all the OTHER Jehovah's Witnesses - the ones who have an earthly hope and who are not allowed to take part in the Lord's Supper? If they are not in this New Covenant and are not anointed with the Holy Spirit, then what are the implications for them?
Jesus said "This cup means the new covenant, by virtue of my blood, which is to be poured out in your behalf" (Luke 22:20). If you are not in this New Covenant then Christ's outpoured blood does not cover you.
According to 1 Cor 10:16-17 those Jehovah's Witnesses who do not have a heavenly hope can not be part of this one body, because they cannot partake of the one loaf. They have been excluded.
2008-01-01 05:48:34
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answered by Anonymous
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No. This is too much legalistic and moralistic in religion. Anybody can partake the communion loaf and cup. Even those who are just parroting and refuse to know the real meaning of this remembrance of how we are saved (Ephesians 2:8-9) because Christ has already done it all. All we have to do is to avail this unsearchable grace by simple faith in the finished work of Christ Jesus.
2008-01-01 16:21:53
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answer #3
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answered by periclesundag 4
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King David served Jehovah. He was not in the covenant and did not go to heaven.
Act 2:34 "For David is not ascended into the heavens"
Those who do not take part of the loaf are no different then King David just like the sinner who died next to Jesus.
Topic: door knocking
Mat 4:19 "And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men."
To follow Christ is to be fishers of men, even if it is inconvenient. (compare Mat 8:21,22)
Topic: remembrance
"keep doing this in remembrance of me," was directed to the 12 apostles who are the 12 kings that sit on the 12 thrones. (Mat 19:28, Luk 22:30) The 12 apostles are the foundation stones of the symbolic 12 tribes of spiritual Israel that was to follow. That's the way they are symbolized at Revelation 21:14, where it depicts the 12 apostles serving as foundational stones upon which the city of God is built.
The passing of the bread and wine is wholly symbolic. Merely drinking wine from a shared cup does not validate anything as the case of Judas shows. The actual pouring out of Christ's blood later that day, and Christ's return to heaven as the High priest to present the value of his own sacrifice, is what validated the covenant that Jehovah made with spiritual Israel.
Taking the Mosaic covenant as a pattern, God covenanted with the entire nation of Israel; but later on, God made a separate covenant for a kingdom with David. Jehovah's covenant with David evidently required no mediator because it was merely secondary to previous messianic covenants that God had made with Abraham and the nation of Israel. However, Jehovah's covenant with David was the basis for Jesus' kingdom.
2008-01-01 08:21:24
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answered by keiichi 6
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Matthew 10:11 “Into whatever city or village YOU enter, search out who in it is deserving, and stay there until YOU leave. 12 When YOU are entering into the house, greet the household; 13 and if the house is deserving, let the peace YOU wish it come upon it; but if it is not deserving, let the peace from YOU return upon YOU. 14 Wherever anyone does not take YOU in or listen to YOUR words, on going out of that house or that city shake the dust off YOUR feet"
CAn you tell us why you are not following that example as Jesus set and that all JWs are doing? Why you are not doing that?
Why if Jesus command to remember his death Nisan 14, you even knew before knowing JWs that date and that information, cause you didn´t know that date before "dealing" with JWs?
AGAIN: as always all JWS used the bible to support their belief while the people "talk talk" but don´t use the bible to support their point of view.
2008-01-01 23:57:30
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answered by Anonymous
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outstanding how a question a pair of date produces screeds of justification for a doctrine. nicely, there is sufficient undertaking linked with the date to be getting on with right here! it form of feels that there exchange right into a technique taking place and that it took some years for the muddied waters to sparkling (in JW thinking). the hot classification of un-anointed Christian (a contradiction in words, in case you think of approximately it) exchange into first suggested in 1931 and alter into initially referred to as the Jonadab classification. "What, then, with reference to the 'great crowd' of sheeplike persons from all areas of the worldwide? in accordance to the historic data, the time of judgment for them began interior the latter area of 1931, whilst the anointed remnant, under the call 'Jehovah's witnesses', began turning their interest to those 'different sheep'." (Babylon the great, p 467). besides the certainty that this team supposedly began to style from 1931 onwards, the Society states: "On might 31, 1935, the 'great multitude' exchange into needless to say pointed out'. (Proclaimers p 166) it form of feels as though those 'different sheep' might have been needless to say instructed to no longer partake at communion from might 31, 1935 onwards, and that they persisted to learn this each 365 days, till now. it would be deceptive to propose the Society, or the anointed Witnesses, 'stopped sharing the communion' - it extremely is greater precise to declare the earthly desire classification may be recommended approximately how grave a sin it would be to partake in the event that they weren't anointed. possibly at present's 'different sheep' at the instant are not so sheepish. the two that, or lots greater of them are anointed than squares with the one hundred forty four,000 formulation. that would desire to account for the unpredicted upward thrust in partakers. after all, if the 1935 decree exchange into suitable, there might desire to hardly be greater suitable than 3 or 4 anointed JWs of that team left alive now, yet over 9,000 declare to have the heavenly desire! exciting.
2016-10-10 16:35:26
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answered by salmaan 4
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At the Passover celebration Jesus had...when he had the last supper...he gathered his 12 disciples in an upper room and closed the doors.......He had many followers but only those with the heavenly hope were to be part of the Messianic Covenant he was about to install that night. He had dismissed Judas before he started talking of the bread and wine and blessing it and passing it around.
It was only to go to the ones with the heavenly hope that would rule in heaven.
The rest of the followers did their own passover celebration.
2007-12-30 14:45:51
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answered by debbie2243 7
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Matt. 7:13,14 "Go into the narrow gate, because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it."
2008-01-02 08:38:27
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answer #8
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answered by Vivimos en los Ultimos Dias 5
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No.
Jehovah's Witnesses themselves commemorate the Last Supper with the emblems of wine and unleavened bread. Thousands of Witnesses partake at each commemoration.
(1 Corinthians 11:23-25, NWT) The Lord Jesus in the night in which he was going to be handed over took a loaf... Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” 25 He did likewise respecting the cup.. Keep doing this... in remembrance of me.”
(1 Cor 11:24, 25, NEB) "Do this as a memorial of me.”
Christ Jesus himself personally celebrated and explained the significance of that Last Supper to his followers (see Matthew 26:26-29). Christians who commemorate the Last Supper have done so on the same Jewish calendar date as Jesus did, Nisan 14, which generally falls between late March and mid-April. Interestingly, Christians in the centuries immediately after Christ's impalement were sometimes called "Quartodecimans" which literally mean "Fourteen-ers", because the early Christians were well-known for this true holy day.
How would Jesus feel to learn that the holiday he commanded was widely ignored, while his so-called followers chose to celebrate a pagan false god and their own traditions of men? We don't need to wonder.
(Matthew 15:6-9) You have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about you when he said, 8 ‘This people honors me with their lips, yet their heart is far removed from me. 9 It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.’”
Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/lmn/index.htm?article=article_08.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/rq/index.htm?article=article_11.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/20041215/article_02.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/20011115/article_02.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/20050101a/
http://watchtower.org/e/jt/
2007-12-31 06:47:55
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answered by achtung_heiss 7
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only the 144.000 the rest pass around a cup of wine and a plate of bread to look at i grew up a JW and i always wanted to drink the wine and eat the bread and never understood why i could'nt
2007-12-30 14:44:08
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answered by ummkhadijah 3
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