What was the REAL reason that the people at waco branch davidians were all killed?

Question

its pretty obvious a 200 dollar tax evasion doesn't call for a full scale military "cleansing" of 80 odd innocent citizens. What was the real reason that the american government decided to wipe the Waco Branch davidians off the face of the planet?

Answer 1

I don't know the real story on why these people died, maybe that wanted it that way. Maybe they didn't... I don't know.

I know that there are "gun-nuts" out there, and worse. Nuts, with guns. I think it's important for all lives in the direct line of assault from government entities, be protected as much as humanly possible. After all, they (Branch Dividians)were only accused of any of those actions and violations. I understand how it may feel being subjected to fires. I can also understand to some degree the officers reactions. My main concern is that the videos seemed to show officers firing blindly into the buildings, which would make it hard for the assaulting officer to know who he was suppressing. As for the fire which claimed those lives. The video also seems to show the fire coming from the side of the building the tank contacted. Does this mean they set the fire, no. Does it mean they didn't? Nope. The point is, most of the officers get the benefit of being heard in this case. Almost all of the Branch Dividians did not.

I think it happend because there was a mutual degeneration of trust and respect. Neither side seemed to respect the sanctity of life enough to stop. Governments should be about making lives easier for it's people (in one way or another), Churches should make it easier to fullfill the spiritual aspect of life. Both working in concert for the greater good of all lives. In this case neither side did a good job in my opinion.

Sad for everyone envolved....

Answer 2

It's not a $200 tax evasion. It's also not a military question, you've put this in the wrong place.

It's $200 per device, an amount that would have run to many thousands considering the extent of the Davidian's illegal armory.

Even so, paying the fee is only required if the application, which was never submitted, is accepted, so there's a little more depth to the evasions, further when you look into it and find that the Davidians ahd established a separate address (The Mag Bag) from which to conduct their illegal weapons transfers, furthering the depth of evasions.

Let me point out that one violation is no less illegal than 100, but the scale of something does make the probability that you will be noticed proportionately higher. This is what happened to the Davidians--a package delivered by UPS broke open and grenade hulls spilled out. Inert hulls are not prohibited, but they are supposed to be declared--these were not, and UPS reported the incident to ATF.

ATF investigated, and found not only the hulls, but a number of materials and devices that could be used to make them into functioning grenades. In fact, one of the ATF agents injured on the morning of 28 February 1995, was injured by fragmentations from one of these grenades.

In addition they discovered teh purchase of a large number of, otherwise legal weapons and ammunition, and parts and devices that could be used to modify them beyond legal performance, into unregistred (the $200 fee you alluded to) fully automatic weapons. Audio tapes made that day fully attest to the presence of fully automatic wepaons. It's worth while to note that ATF weapons (9mm pistols, AR-15s, 12 ga. Mossbergs, HK MP-5s) are not fully automatic.

So that's it for the reasons for the initial raid. Nothing else you may have heard is correct or matters as far as ATF's involvement. Had the Davidians submittted to ATF agent's demands to execute 2 leagl warrants, a search warrant for the premises of the Davidian home and the Mag Bag, and an arrest warrant, predicated on finding illegal weapons in teh search, any illegal weapons found would have been impounded, and David Koresh and Steve Schneider would have been arrested. The remaining people would, likely, still be there, worshiping as they please.

Fast forward to 19 April. I can't answer alot of questions at why FBI made the decisions they did. However, despite their over secretiveness, and attemtps to burnish their own image, there is no evidence that even suggests that the fire was started by anyone other than the Davidains themselves. And the pictures of people running back into the burning building, rather than submit to arrest is testiment enough of thier desire and willingness to become martyrs.

Answer 3

My opinion replaced into that the regulation enforcement businesses erred in no longer riddling the compound with computerized hands hearth the minute their brokers have been given shot. I blame no person yet David Koresh and his mindless minions for the disaster. Koresh replaced right into a self-righteous bigot who sexually abused the toddlers and took great thing with regard to the ladies in his team. good riddance to undesirable rubbish for the adults in that sicko team, and a real shame that the toddlers could no longer have been rescued and that some regulation enforcment experts have been given shot.

Answer 4

The REAL reason is that the Branch Davidians were an apocalyptic cult that had stockpiled large amount of weponry in their compound. When called upon by law enforcement, they opened fire. The feds fired back, and a siege settled in. When the feds finally said, enough, already, and started to batter their way in, the Davidians immolated themselves.

Regardless of what the warrant(s) was for, you fire on feds, you become a target. The months of investigation and inquiries by state and local authorities did nothing but demonstrate just how truly dangerous Koresh and his fellow reprobates were. It has nothing to do with Ruby Ridge or anywhere else. We have too many armed kooks in this nation who believe that hiding behind religion is sufficient cover for grossly antisocial behavior.

Answer 5

My analysis of 'why' is the fact that Janet Reno was not qualified to run the Justice Department. She was somebody who had been nothing but a lawyer who now had to make 'real world' operational decisions.

This showed in the planning. Anybody notice that - despite experience - all the operations ran in an attempt to arrest the Branch Davidians assumed that the Davidians would cooperate?

I see Waco as an example of incompetence - not conspiracy.

Answer 6

Maybe because they didn't surrender when the law enforcement officers said "Throw down your weapons and come out".
Maybe because they were more willing to die than to face trial for sexual abuse of children, violations of local school enrollment laws, and violations of firearms and explosives laws.
Maybe because David Koresh was a moron.

Answer 7

It was a religious cult that had illegal weapons and who broke several laws including statutory rape, pedophilia, polygamy, tax evasion, attempted murder of a police officer, murder of a police officer, ect ect ect ect.....

They were given plenty of chances to surrender. They rigged their complex with flammable material. Their leader basically murdered them, he knew that any attempt to take the complex by force would end up igniting it. Thats why he ordered the people in there into the basement so that they couldnt escape. Survivors of the incident have verified these facts.

Your analogy that the government "decided to wipe them off the face of the planet" is not accurate.

It would be like me shooting at a cop and killing one, then killing myself instead of surrendering, and then someone calling my suicide a "murder" by the police.

Answer 8

Ask the FBI or the BATF

Last I checked this was the military section and they are not part of the military!

Ret. USAF SNCO

Answer 9

Please, there is a thing called the law. And there is also something called facts. Many of you have forgotten both.

By the way, wipe off the planet? Then why are there 9 survivors?

Answer 10

Rules of engagement . I find it sad that some folks do not know the truth of the massacre at Waco and take the mush served up by the Clinton Regime. The press at the time is as guilty and the result of their lies was the Oklahoma Federal building bombing. When in history do you send the AFT to serve a warrant on child molestation charges ?