Why do atheists say there are no miracles when they see the end of the world is coming?

Question

Just wondering?
The BIble was always attacked as talking about the end times and non-believers have always mocked it as being superstitious- now they see the environmental changes as prophesied why do they still think all that's happening is not from the God of the Bible?

It is written in Luke 21, “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and
perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea."
Reports from UN and EU environmental experts have all agreed that the seas are getting rougher and more dangerous.
When they see these further signs in the sun and moon, will they then repent?
The argument used to be the Jews had not returned to the land, but now that prophesy has been fulfilled for over 50 years, what more proof do these people need before they too repent?

Well, well, well! I read you unbelievers have got all alarmed! Why?
You have the signs given before you all- they are big enough so even the worldly experts can notice these ones!!
If you repent then you will receive the promise from the Lord Jesus that no other religious leader has ever dared say, that He will prove Himself to His followers (John 14v21). But people must repent first to come to know of His existence.
So why don't you?
Someone has claimed the prophesies have not been fulfilled? Not all have. Christ never said that He would return in the time of His followers; No-one knows when He will return . He did say his return would be after a long time (Matthew 25v5,19)
I think 2,000 years is a long time.
He said many would come claiming to be the Christ - the anointed one- the one to save the world. Just read for yourselves how many cults there have been.
He said Christians would be persecuted. that Jerusalem temple would be overthrown, the Jews to return, and much more!

Answer 1

Jesus and the Bible are frauds.

Jesus was a fraud, who if he performed any miracle at all, was empowered of Satan the Adversary, to test the Jews and see if they understood the prophecies. Those who followed him, including Christians and the so-called "Messianic Jews" are those who failed this test and were led away from G-D.

http://www.jewsforjudaism.org list the hundreds of prophecies Jesus failed to fulfill.

Jesus was NOT a member of the tribe of Judah since he had no biological father (according to the Bible).

Jesus did NOT directly descend from David through Solomon, patriarchally.

Jesus did NOT gather all the Israelites and restore them to Israel.

Jesus did NOT rebuild the Temple (in fact, it FELL shortly after he allegedly died).

Jesus did NOT rule, let alone at a time of world-peace.

Jesus did NOT rule, let alone at a time all Jews everywhere kept perfect observance of the mitzvot.

Jesus did NOT rule, let alone at a time when all peoples everywhere would know and acknowledge G-D alone, and serve him in perfection.

http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/jews-jesus/jews-jesus-index.html

Further, contrary to Christian claims Jesus will fulfill the prophecies at his second coming, why did he not do so? Jesus died, Jesus went elsewhere. Then Jesus returned and hung out for 40 days. As such, Christians are waiting for a THIRD coming, not second.

Worse still, there is not one single prophecy in the Old Testament that the Coming Messiah will fulfill the prophecies in multiple comings. They are quite specific that he gets one lifetime to do them, or fails the test.

Answer 2

Those quotes from Luke are rather vague aren't they? "On the earth, nations will be in anguish" - name me a time in history when some nations somewhere have not been in anguish (itself a vague term which could mean anything).

Belief in the end times is like belief in the prophesies of Nostradamus - you only see what you want to see, because the 'predictions' can be interpreted many different ways.

Many people thought that the end of the world would come with a nuclear war between the USA and USSR, and the Bible prophecies were twisted to reflect that at the time. Now that threat is diminished, Christians point to climate change instead. In reality, the world has been around for billions of years and will be around for a long, long time to come. If we hasten the destruction of the environment that isn't God's judgement, it's a human thing.

There have been catastrophic climate changes in human history too, and at those times people also thought the world was ending. It didn't. In 2007 the UK had its worst flooding for 50 years and one Christian minister assigned it to God's punishment on gays. Needless to say, he is the type of person everyone can laugh at. And 'worst flooding for 50 years' means that 50 years ago it was worse than that - freak weather happens from time to time. The US had a relatively quiet hurricane year this year. No Katrina-size catastrophes. Again, there are peaks and troughs, and it's why we have averages - sometimes there is less severe weather, sometimes more.

The end times prophecies haven't all come true. In fact that's the thing about prophecies - if they never come true, the religious still give them value because they say they WILL come true at some point. 'Never give up on false hope' should be the motto of Christianity I think!

The Jews may have their own state now, but there is zero chance of them rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem, which is crucial to the end times nonsense. Why is there no chance? Because the Al-Aqsa Mosque is built on the site, and it's one of Islam's holiest places now. I can't see them giving permission to knock it down and redevelop it with a Jewish temple. Can you?

Answer 3

Every begining has an end. The end, will come, no question about it.

What changes is how we perceive that end will be, and what will happen when the end comes. In your case, you view the end from the Biblical point of view, but not everyone follows the Bible.

The Bible has many teachings that are worth of learning. But the Bible is not the only Holy Book in the world. The Koran also contains many great things worth of learning. In fact, all Holy Books from all religions do have teachings worth of learning.

In order to repent, you must feel guilt for doing something wrong. Will you repent for a wrong you have not committed? Absolutely. But, What profits the soul of a person who repents without having done any wrong?

I wonder what prophesies are your reffering to. Perhaps I failed to notice the fulfillment of any of prophesy found in the Bible. Can you share some light?

Answer 4

The problem is that atheists do not believe in God or His prophesies, ergo we do not believe in the Bible, ergo we do not believe that the world is coming to an end. Nations have always and will always be anguished, we screwed up the environment ourselves, and did you know that the Book of Revelations was actually written in code and addressed towards the persecuted Christians? IT doesn't really prophesize the end of the world.

Answer 5

It hasn't happened yet. Yes the environmental changes, as prophecised by Al Gore in that movie he made.

People that are planning for the end of the world strike me as just a little frightening. They hope that the world will end and plan for it. If that is their point of view then is it gods will to help it on its way? Thats why that kind of talk makes me uneasy. Shouldn't we be trying to make the world last as long as it can?

Anyway, in answer to your question I won't be repenting any time soon. But thanks for the offer.

Answer 6

It was pretty stormy back in 1940 too - and 1914 and 1805 and 1588. Nations were at war in those years too (Trafalgar & Armada are the last two.)

What signs in the sun and moon that astronomy & physics can't explain. (What's odd about them anyway? They look OK to me.)

Are you 7th Day, Jehovah Witness or Mormon? All believe that judgement day is imminent; just have to keep moving the date back.

May be worth reading this too.
End of the world is nighism goes back 2,000 years. And all wrong.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/millenni.htm
http://www.iath.virginia.edu/utc/christn/chmillhp.html
http://www.shoaheducation.com/post.html

Answer 7

Dangerous talk this.

There are many people - some with a lot of power - who *want* the end times to come, and so may hasten it. For example, by encouraing pollution / blocking moves to prevent climate change, starting wars, etc.

It may all be just self-fulfilling prophecy.

Answer 8

Your definition of a miracle may be something that can be explained in scientific terms but does it make it any less magistic and beautiful? The world shall never end, though it may be blown to bits the concept of a habitat shall remain in the thoughts of all living beings who once experience it's glorious nature. May your spirit grow strong in the world.

Answer 9

How is the end of the world a miracle?

Anyhow, it's all global warming, which was caused by humans. We have seen no 'signs' in the moon and stars, and the sun is just entering a perfectly NORMAL period of extra activity. The seas are rising because of the ice melting.

Answer 10

The bible should be re-classified as a Joke Book.It is so full of contradictions and lies it's funny.
All that is happening is not detailed in the bible or by a make believe god.
It is not for athiests to prove god does not exist but for you to prove he does...but you can't because he doesn't.