Are Atheist more spiritual than religious believers?

Question

Since it's hard for religious believers to follow a belief along a moral code turning them hypocrites, aren't Atheist who have no moral code actually more honest and therefore more spiritual? What constitutes having a religious nature, because if it isn't honesty, then what is it? Is it just believing in someone or something that's good enough?

Why can't I ask a simple, rational question in this forum without getting a bunch of embecilic answers? All I'm asking is whether somone who doesn't believe in God and has no "commandments" to follow less prone to being hypocritical than those who do follow religious morals, even though there are social morals, too, more honest than those who break their faith and religious moral codes, so that those who don't have those moral, religious codes, are actually more spiritual, in the sense of being honest to their self, than those who profess to be a follower of some religious doctrine?

Being "religious" has nothing to do with just words or believing anything. It's what you do or don't do. If you are a Christian yet you violate what Christ said to do, then you would be more spiritual by stop being a Christian and just being honest with yourself. Believing in the Bible or Jesus isn't going to "save" you and get a seat in "Heaven," quite the contrary.

Answer 1

they are in the process of enlightenment,but not fully yet,the christians are still in darkness,i used to be a christian untill 18 years,then i became an atheist untill 30 years,now im a follower of Jesus and i know the truth.most christians will first become atheists before spiritual

Answer 2

Seems to be a few misunderstandings going here ?
I am atheist, have been for years, that means only that I don't believe there is a God!
I am not religious because religion means the worship of this none existent God.
That cant be difficult to understand surely???
How you could arrive at the conclusion that I or those like me, have no moral code, is way beyond me?
All you can say about atheists is that we dont belive in God, apart from that we differ, some of us may well think that we have been 'planted' here by little green men from mars, that concept is more acceptable than a God making the earth in 6 days then taking a break on day 7, so best not to hang your clean washing out to dry on day 7!!
None of that has anything to do with morals.

Answer 3

It is not hard for me to follow a belief along a moral code.

You DO realize that you are insulting atheists by saying they have no moral code, do you not?
What you have stated means that you think someone who has no moral code is more honest than someone who does.
Guess what?
Honesty IS part of a moral code.



As for your generalization that atheists are more spiritual than believers, that is false as well, IMO.

You have no proof, do you?
You cannot say unequivocally that ALL believers are dishonest.

Again, prove it.

Answer 4

I do have a moral code as an atheist, I just have some areas of disagreement on what is and is not moral from Christians. They also disagree on issues in Christianity from denomination to another. I do think I have a spiritual side when I meditate and contemplate on the interconnected and interdependent relationships of all people and living things. This may not satisfy some people's idea of spirituality but what matters is it works for me.

Answer 5

I do not know any atheist that do not have a system of morality. Seriously, morality is not a religious concept nor is morality derived from from religion.

I'd also say that morality has nothing to do with "spirituality". Granted, many atheist are more honest with themselves and are self-accountable for their actions, but this in of itself, does not imply spirituality. Then again, some atheist have spiritual tendencies.

Answer 6

Atheists have no "moral code?" How silly.

By the way, "spirit" is a religous concept with no basis in reality, therefore, no one is "spiritual."

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Why Christians Must Steal From Secular Morality:
http://www.caseagainstfaith.com/submissions/steal_morality.htm
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Christians must steal their moral rules from secular morality. They have no choice, as the Bible does not offer a moral system, it only offers a series of contradictory commands and a supposed threat of punishment in the "afterlife" for not following them - a punishment that is given equally to all violators - whatever the sin.

The Bible does nothing and can do nothing towards inculcating moral behavior on its own. Christians must steal from secular moral systems, and then merely graft their 'God threats' on top of this moral system. This is necessary. And the reason for this is simple: there is no morality in the Bible and there can be no morality in the Bible, because the Bible holds that 1) ALL 'sins' are equivalent (destroying any moral sense) AND 2) all moral behavior is immaterial, because works cannot save a person, AND finally all people are damned from birth.

In reality, Christians realize that some actions are more moral than others. They realize that moral actions exist in a hierarchy, and that rape is far worse than stealing a pencil. Yet the Bible holds that all 'sins' are equal, as all deserve the same punishment.

Christians also realize that humans can be moral agents... they expect moral behavior from others, and they view their own children as something to value. Yet the Bible holds that man is worthless, that he cannot be a moral agent, and that his sole salvation comes from grace. However, since Christians realize, implicitly, that all of these these points are obviously, prima facie false, they must steal from secular systems, that hold that 1) man obviously has a value 2) all 'sins' are obviously not equivalent and 3) a person cannot be held to be doing anything 'immoral' without intent.

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Origins of the 10 commandments:
http://www.atheistalliance.org/outreach/news-2002_spring.php
http://www.rationalrevolution.net/articles/ten_commandments.htm

Morality Without God:
http://www.atheists.org/Atheism/cohen.html

Ethics Without Gods:
http://www.atheists.org/Atheism/ethics.html

Morals Without Gods:
http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=sharris_26_3

Evolution of Altruism:
http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~strone01/altruism.html

If It Feels Good to Be Good, It Might Be Only Natural:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/27/AR2007052701056.html?nav=rss_print/asection

The Subtle, Lethal Poison of Religion:
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2007/09/hitchens_1.html

How Can an Atheist Be Moral?
For Goodness Sake
http://www.ffrf.org/about/bybarker/goodness.php
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Answer 7

I don't know that being more honest makes atheists more spiritual, but I think that the definition of "spiritual" is vague and shifting enough that you could make that argument.

I don't agree with you that atheists don't have moral codes. Of course we don't have one moral code that we all share, but neither do religious people (even within a single religion).

Answer 8

We do have morals, thank you very much. We're not spiritual because we believe in no God. As for all atheists being honest, every group has its own sub-categories.

Answer 9

Do you think believing in morals if it comes through religion is hypocrisy ..
Morals are morals whether it comes from theists or atheists..
No need to give credit to the atheists just because they invented their own ethics which surely will be in MOST of them verrrrrrrrrrry corrupt.

Answer 10

No just believing is not good enough. I try to take God to all corners of my life. Whether you like it or not, God knows you inside out, but how much you let yourself admit to it is a different story. Therefore, I try and make God center of all I do. If any Athiest is more "holy" or "spiritual" then I, I'll try harder. (Please don't take me wrong, I don't mean to say that I'm greater then anyone, God is the greatest, but if there is any Athiest, Agnostic, or Evolutionist, that is more "spiritua" then me, I'm sorry. It doesn't make sense how that could work though, because they are denying that God exists, and those qualities are of Him.)