What do Mormons, JWs, 7DA, or other denomination think about Matthew27:50-54?

Question

Please write your denomination or nondenomination.

After Jesus gave up the Ghost, the veil of the temple rent from top to bottom. And there was earthquakes & rocks broke & the graves were opened & many bodies of the Saints (OT) who slept arose. They came out of their graves after His resurrection & wento into the Holy City & appeared to many.

I first ask Mormons because they think they have to baptize for the dead (those who were never water baptized), including the OT Saints to save them.

Thanks for honest answers. Preached at my non-denominational Church is that the Saints in the 'Bosom of Abraham' their ghosts raised up & went to the Holy City & then up to the 3rd Heaven. Because the atonement was made. Jesus shed His blood for the remission of our sins. To be absent from this body is to be present with the Lord.

Thank you Jesus for being water baptized for the Saints. They were made the righteousness of Christ the moment Jesus died for them. But then it is Jesus Sacrifice, His shed blood that is the atonement.

I don't agree it is necessary to water baptize for them.

My Pastor has preached that Paradise (Abrahams bosom) was down across from hell. When Jesus atonement was made, Paradise was raised up to the 3rd heaven. Only because of Jesus atonement & resurrection. Not because of water baptism. That the Saints are in heaven. To be absent from this body is to be present with the Lord. Paul even wrote of the 3rd heaven.

Answer 1

‘Tombs Opened’ at Jesus’ Death.

The text at Matthew 27:52, 53 concerning “the memorial tombs [that] were opened” as the result of an earthquake occurring at the time of Jesus’ death has caused considerable discussion, some holding that a resurrection occurred. However, a comparison with the texts concerning the resurrection makes clear that these verses do not describe a resurrection but merely a throwing of bodies out of their tombs, similar to incidents that have taken place in more recent times, as in Ecuador in 1949 and again in Bogotá, Colombia, in 1962, when 200 corpses in the cemetery were thrown out of their tombs by a violent earth tremor.—El Tiempo, Bogotá, Colombia, July 31, 1962.

Answer 2

There are a few things that you are not understanding...I'll try and go through one or two.

First, we know that Paradise and Heaven aren't the same place. We know this because Jesus said to the theif that TODAY you will be with me in Paradise, but 3 days later Jesus still hadn't returned to the Father (Who lives in Heaven) beause he told Mary not to touch him because of that. So, Paradise cannot be Heaven.

Second, ordinances of the Gospel are for salvation purposes. Jesus has stated to us that only those who repent and are baptized shall be saved. This is so important that Jesus Himself was baptized. So, baptism is essencial according to Jesus, for anyone who wishes to enter into Heaven. And it needs to be by one holding the proper authority, otherwise, why did Jesus SEEK out John the Baptist if he could go to anyone?

Third, we know that it is at the judgment seat that we will be assigned where we will spend eternity. And because of what we learned from the theif on the Cross, Judgment isn't right away.

Fourth, We know that Jesus taught those in prision, and we know that these are those who were from the time of Noah. So now we know that there is a Paradise and a Prision for Spirits. And we know that Jesus taught those in prision.

Still no judgment.

So, now we know that Baptism is esseicial for salvation, but not for entering into Paradise.

As far as the graves that were opened...These are the people who were resurrected with Christ. Who had died in Him. So, we know that there had been some who had already been to the judgment, and were now being resurrected. These had been those Who had been baptized after accepting Christ-we know this because they are called saints as apposed to just a general population.

So, since we know that Baptism is essencial for slavation, then the only way to give those who have not had a chance to recieve this ordinance a chance to accept it and gain this salvation.

Hope this help clear things up a little. I'm sure others will have more to say.

Answer 3

Name: S
Age: unknown
Sex: M
Race: American
Denomination: "believer in Christ"
Is that good...can I "answer" now...good.
Clearly, after the saints had resurrected they went into Jerusalem (the holy city). This does not mean they went into "the kingdom of God". Those who resurrected go to the same place as un-resurrected righteous people go to wait for the second coming of Jesus. Baptism, while not directly mentioned in the old testament, was practiced. As evidenced by John the baptist who came "before" Jesus. If Jesus, who was absolutely obedient to God's laws, was baptized, shouldn't all others who follow God; or at least have the chance?
I wonder?
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Answer 4

Yes, we believe in baptism for the dead, and yes, for those who were never baptized. Jesus Christ, Himself showed us the example by being baptized, even though He was free from sin. If Christ needs baptism, then how can we, who are so much less, not?

Now, John the Baptist was baptizing at the beginning of the ministry of Jesus Christ. He would have had to receive his authority from somewhere...so it stands to reason that there were souls who had been baptized before the ministry of Jesus Christ. Don't you think?

Answer 5

Exactly!!!!

The priesthood Ordinances of baptism and The gift of the Holy Ghost, etc etc have existed since Adam!!! Those ordinances are offered to all of God's children, regardless of when and where they are born, if not in this life then in the next. We do not baptise people who have already been baptised by the proper authority, and it is pretty rare for us to do baptisms for people that lived in old testament times, since we would not have the legitimate documentation either way. but that is merely a logistical issue. If you are accusing us of not believing in the ressurrection then you are misinformed. The promise of Ressurrection is literal, meaning our spirits will be restored to a perfected and incorruptible physical frame. Frankly, if you took the time to study Mormonism, instead just what people say about Mormonism, you would find that we believe that scripture from matthew more than most people.

Answer 6

The elements of His creation mourned at the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. The priesthood authority to baptize and perform ordinances was past down from Adam [even the Savior was baptized to fulfill the law and provide an example]. The saints who rose from the dead were those who had already received the priesthood ordinances and were called forth after the Savior's death to testify of Him and His resurrection.

Answer 7

Non Denominational = BIBLE Only!

The Temple Veil was Rent..... as in Mark 15:38... thus Opening the HOLIEST OF HOLIES.... to the Common Man... and Not Only the Priest!

(Hebrews 9:24-to-28) For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

(Heb 9:25) Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

(Heb 9:26) For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

(Heb 9:27) And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

(Heb 9:28) So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

ACTUALLY..... Water Baptism..... "DOES NOT SAVE.... ANYONE!"

See Ephesians 2:8-9-10 -&- Titus 3:5 -&- 1Corinthians 12:13 -&- Romans 8:9 -&- Ehpesians 1:13..... and Other Verses!

Being Born Again....John 3....."Born from Above ... by the Spirit of GOD...... is what Makes ONE..... A Christian!"

Thanks for Asking ! RR

Answer 8

Earthquakes that cause buried dead bodies to be tossed out of graves in not unusual. The same happens in floods today. The fact that it happens immediately after Jesus died is very unusual. The timing shows the importance of Jesus' death and life.

Remember too, the graves were in caves, not necessarily buried. Rolling down hill into the city those bodies must have shook many people up.

Answer 9

As an ex SDA I think I can say without fear of contradiction that the SDA church accepts that scripture as being true. What is your question? Whether they rose at His death or His resurrection? How many rose? Why we don't know the names of any?

Answer 10

Mormons believe the Bible, which states that baptism by one with the proper authority is an essential step in the path to salvation (John 3:5). So important is baptism that even Jesus Christ, who was perfect, chose to be baptized to set an example for all of us. If baptism is essential for salvation, however, what happens to the many people who never even heard of Jesus Christ? What of all the people who never had the opportunity to be baptized by someone with authority? God would not be a just God if He barred these innocents from entering into the "kingdom of heaven."

While His body lay in the tomb, the Bible teaches that Jesus Christ visited the "spirits in prison," those who had not had the opportunity to accept Him in life (1 Peter 3:18-20, 1 Peter 4:6). Many of these spirits accepted Christ's gospel, but, as spirits, they had no way of being baptized "in the flesh." Despite their new-found sincere belief in Jesus Christ, they could not comply with His baptismal requirement.

Paul mentions briefly an ancient Christian practice that resolves this dilemma. In 1 Corinthians 15:29, he talks about baptism for the dead. In this sacred ordinance, a living person is baptized vicariously for one who has died, usually a relative. With the baptismal requirement fulfilled, the person who has died is free to choose to follow Christ or not. Regardless of his or her choice, baptism will not be a barrier to salvation; only personal choice will determine future spiritual progression.

Why did God set up such a seemingly complex system? The benefits of vicarious baptism for the dead go far beyond enabling the spiritual progression of the deceased. God instituted this system because He wanted the living to feel a connection with their ancestors, their heritage. He wanted the entire human family to be tied together as one. He wanted His children to understand, if only in a minuscule way, what it is like to work for the salvation of another soul. Baptism for the dead truly is a beautiful ordinance.

Krister Stendahl, the Dean of Divinity Emeritus at Harvard University who later became the Lutheran Bishop of Stockholm, confirms that baptism for the dead was a practice of the early Christian church. He said, "Now with the Mormons we have it again as a practice...I could think of myself as taking part in such an act…extending the blessings that have come to me in and through Jesus Christ. That's generous. That's beautiful. And should not be ridiculed or spoken badly of."

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