Is this why Christians say it is ok to kill and torture because Jesus also said when you are wronged to turn the other cheek, so he will forgive them all their sins?
2007-12-30 05:07:59 · 20 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
The people who are in the army call themselves Christians mostly dont they?
2007-12-30 05:16:09 · update #1
i am not the one who is trying to twist things and some of my closest friends and lovers have been/are Christians , i totally respect those who truly believe that God is love and was manifest in savior of ALL mankind as Jesus Christ
Blessings to all who answered .
2007-12-30 05:45:15 · update #2
I have read the Bible loads, and went to church and not the modern versions the proper king james, and no where did it say , or Jesus say it is okay to kill and torture other human beings in the name of goodness.
2007-12-30 22:23:21 · update #3
I have read the Bible loads, and went to church and not the modern versions the proper king james, and no where did it say , or Jesus say it is okay to kill and torture other human beings in the name of goodness.
2007-12-30 22:30:09 · update #4
Turning the other cheek is pacifist; nothing to do with torture and killing.
Jesus was totally against torture and killing.
It was the Church that started all that stuff, with the Spanish Inquisition.
Jesus was a prophet and a very wise and gentle one; on parr with Buddha. As such, he has no real power to forgive sins, and never said he had. He always asked for God's intervention to heal and purify people.
And yes, Jesus would not have thought the soul of a lamb was of less value than that of a rich man.
Whereas the Church insisted that animals were put on earth by God for humans to USE! How sick is that?
Bravo for Saint Francis!
And that animals have no souls?
Apparently Jesus disagreed with that one.
Very noble.
But the Church has negated Jesus totally.
By turning him into the son of God, they tried to make him God, something he wasn't.
They erased his important messages or kept them hidden and used him as a pawn to spread power, war-mongering and hatred around the world.
How very sad all this must make him, if he could see how totally misinterpreted he'd become.
And the only reason for abusing Jesus thus was political.
People wanted to revolt against the Jewish ways and needed a new way to go. It was probably pure and innocent at first, then as it became more powerful, got twisted and crooked.
There is no sense in organised religion. You have to love from your heart, not because you are ordered to do so by some institution.
I mean no disrespect to any Catholic priest or Jewish rabbis or Protestant Ministers. There are many good people among them who seem to really care about a few of their "flock". Bless them!
But why can't they care about all living beings?
Just as Jesus and Buddha did.
The only hope left are the angels ... how come there are the same angels in Jewish theology as in Christian and Islamic?
Nobody has a monopoly on angels because angels are not political agents. Or else because angels are the least believed in.
But I prefer to believe in angels more than in religions, because ... I don't know why. Just because. Because I still want to have some blind faith in a higher power?
Angels love me and I love them back; no-one controls that love but me, alone.
2007-12-30 05:22:20 · answer #1 · answered by kiteeze 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Why does anyone torture and kill, It is because we live in a fallen world. I really don't know how many of the men and women in the armed forces are christian, don't assume just because they are American they are Christian, There many people in this country who practice many different beliefs, We can do that here it's called freedom of Religion. The Men who are being tortured are evil islamic extremists and the information we gain from them is going to save the lives of many innocent people around the world. It is a shame that those things happen, but the islamic militants bring it on themselves
2007-12-30 13:23:04 · answer #2 · answered by Michael 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Yes:
"Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, that, you do unto me." --Jesus
'Thou shalt not kill' was a mistranslation. The correct translation is, 'Thou shalt not murder.'
Even in the Bible, people went to war. Joshua fought the Battle of Jericho with God's blessing.
Re turning the other cheek--That means to demand that people treat you as an equal. If someone backhands you, turn the other cheek so that, when their hand comes back to you, you are slapped with the palm, as equals strike each other. Back then, masters backhanded their slaves to punish them.
2007-12-30 13:19:09 · answer #3 · answered by Chantal G 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
No, Jesus said "whatsoever ye do unto the least of these, my brethren", which can also be understood as "whatever you do to any Christian". With this understanding, it's necessary to behave well only to other Christians, not to outsiders. Remember, Jesus is once quoted as having compared a non-Jewish woman as a dog. Jesus initially said he came for the Jews, not for everybody.
2007-12-30 13:18:13 · answer #4 · answered by Pamela J 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Matthew 25:40 "The King will answer them, 'Most assuredly I tell you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers you did it to me.'
*Mt 25:40
Have done it unto me; expressive of the intimate and endearing union of Christ and his people. Jesus Christ considers himself to be treated by men as they treat his known disciples. And from the manner in which we treat them, we may learn the manner in which we treat him.
**Mt 25:40
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. The righteous understood well that they had often, in the name and from the love of Christ, ministered to his brethren, the poor and suffering saints, but they had never understood that their Lord accepted this as a personal service to himself. It should be distinctly noted, (1) that the saved are the righteous, or those whose sins have been washed away by Christ; (2) they are those who have lived and acted in the name of Christ, or have been obedient to his will; (3) they have been full of the love of Christ and have faithfully ministered to the distressed, especially to those of the household of faith. The love of Christ implies love of the brethren, and of all mankind.
I hope this helps. This is not my interpretation, see SOURCE below.
2007-12-30 13:22:08 · answer #5 · answered by Rollover Mikey 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No I believe it's a sin to kill, even in the name of God. It has been going on for a Milena, and won't stop now.
2007-12-30 13:19:26 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
You are an idiot. What christian has said it's okay to kill? Stop trying to force yourself to dislike someone. If you don't agree with their beliefs fine, but at least UNDERSTAND the very thing you claim to dislike. And the people in the Army call themselves SOLIDERS!
2007-12-30 13:16:19 · answer #7 · answered by phree 5 · 3⤊ 1⤋
I don't know of any Christians that say it is ok to kill and torture. If they think it is ok then they are not a Christian.
2007-12-30 13:21:46 · answer #8 · answered by tabbycat 3 · 3⤊ 0⤋
No. He says ....
Mat 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done this unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done this unto me.
I do not know of ANY Christians who say torture is ok LOL!
Quite honestly.. i do not think YOU even know what you are talking about.
2007-12-30 13:21:54 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Matthew 25:34 "Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.' 37 "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?' 40 "The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'
I don't know of any Christians who say that it is OK to "murder" anyone or torture a person. The Bible does teach that the government has the responsiblity to take the lives of murderers however.
Genesis 9:6 "Whoever sheds human blood, by human beings shall their blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made humankind.
Romans 13:1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
When Jesus was talking about "turning the other cheek" He was teaching individuals not to usurp the role of appointed Jewish judges who had been given the guideline of "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" when handing out sentences. Instead individuals are to overlook personal insults like getting slapped in the face and not retaliate in kind.
2007-12-30 13:11:49 · answer #10 · answered by Martin S 7 · 4⤊ 2⤋