Atheists... What are you thinking?

Question

If an atheist truly believes there is no God, then that must mean he/she lies.

#1 Since an Atheist believes in no God, he or she only believes in him/herself, and what will cause him/herself and/or proximate affiliates a gratification of temporal quantity and quality.

The Problem with #1: Well if an Atheist truly believes in no God, why does an Atheist disturb the ones who do believe in a God? Would not such action cause potential harm upon the Atheist? Why would an Atheist, who believes in no God, by logical reasoning, do that? If he was certain there is no God, he would not do it, because in case something happens to such Atheist, he/she will not be able to consumate his/her prior privilege he/she lived for.

Now let us not fool ourselves here, in reality an Atheist is someone, who out of sheer will for self-condemnation and malice for gratification forgets the basic need for law, morals and self-accountability.

Can law exist without morals and self-accountability?

Answer 1

A better question would be "Atheists, what are you feeling?"

Answer 2

Law can and does exist without morality and self-accountability. Law is primarily there to ensure that society functions smoothly for all citizens (in a democracy at least.)

The major problem with #1 is that it makes no sense whatsoever, the second being that it assumes that belief in something is necessary.

Your proposed Problem shows that you are blind to the fact that Christians and other religious believers have an impact on our society and culture. In the areas that these are negative impacts, and there are several, I have no other choice than to protect myself and family.

Edit:
Societies need laws to function, however those laws should not be driven by a single moral system nor should they address morality in any other way.

I will say that I am much more self-accountable than when I was a Christian and do not recommend religion as a method of developing self-accountability.

Answer 3

The basic fallacy here, like most religious believers, is to assume that a religion produces morals.

Firstly, in general man makes god in is own image, which means that the god reflects the man. So a tiny insignificant tribe in the Middle East likes the idea of a tough, vengeful god., while the Vikings, already tough, despised christianity when they encountered it.

Secondly, atheists, being rational, and having no axe to grind, produce much more rational rules to live by. Compare the christian "eye for eye, tooth for tooth" with Gandhi's "an eye for an eye, and we'll all be blind"

Finally, when did a christian ever let "basic needs for law, morals and self-acountablity stand in his way"? A final quote from the bishop of Blois "Kill them all, god will know his own"

Answer 4

you do know that god-believers try to reason with atheists or non believers more so than the other way around. also, most atheists i know have great morals and you can't assume they don't have morals. morals do not only stem from religion. they also come from studying and life experience.

i am not an atheist, nor am i believer in organized religion. i love the idea of having faith in something, but i don't feel religion is a lifestyle to live by.

also interesting fact, even though 12% of america is atheist, only .25% of people in jails are atheist, so don't bring up morals.

Answer 5

Re: The problem with # 1 - religious belief is the #1 cause of violent death in the world. That is why atheists disturb the ones who do believe in a God. No fooling.

Answer 6

Wow that's a lot of words jsut to call all atheists amoral. Your wrong ny the way, I know some very nice atheists who have better morals than many Christians that I've met. Atheists hold themselves accountable for what they do or do not do. Isn't that the definition of self-accountabilit? They do not blame some higher power for thier faults or praise that higher power for their good points. That msut be what's bothering you. They don't hold anyone but themselves responsible, while you can say God told you to do it.

Answer 7

Your final question provides your answer. Atheists are more prone to respecting Rule Of Law as being superior to and more logical than religious laws or codes.

That's why we are way under-represented per capita in the prison population (with Eric Rudolph being a recent edition).

Everything is temporal in our lives, even beliefs. Human constructs, all of them.

Ethics and morals far predate religion or humans never would have survived as a species.

Answer 8

You're making the assumption that all atheist bombard theists with their beliefs, or lack thereof.
Quite frankly, I don't care that other people DO believe in a higher power. I enjoy hearing others beliefs. Never once have I tried to argue that my point of views is right while other views are wrong.
Tsk Tsk. It's not very nice to generalize.

Answer 9

Wait, WHAT?!

I could just as easily ask why a theist bothers atheists.

I see the need for law, which is why we need government, not sky fairies. And I have morals, something like this-
don't steal
don't cheat/lie
don't kill
don't willfully harm others

Sometimes I slip up. I lie quite a bit, but I try to reign myself in. But tell me that Christians don't!

Answer 10

"an Atheist is someone, who out of sheer will for self-condemnation and malice for gratification forgets the basic need for law, morals and self-accountability."

Does this give me license to kill you now?

Answer 11

This atheist just gets fed up with proselytizing religious zealots.
I do not need religion, I do not need someone else to define what is right or wrong. I have morality based on my own intellect, no piece of fiction guides my life.