If the universe was started by the "Big Bang"...?

Question

How is it unintelligent to propose that a creator or creators (namely "God(s)") did it? How is that unintelligent or irrational?

If you think it's unintelligent or irrational to believe God(s) set everything in motion, do you believe we have the capability to eventually explain pre-Big Bang phenomena? Can you give me some theories on how that would ever be possible?

Answer 1

In his best-selling book, "A Brief History of Time", Dr Stephen W. Hawking explores many mysteries including the question of how did the universe begin. Here is his concluding paragraph of his book:

"However, if we do discover a complete theory, it should in time be understandable in broad principle to everyone, not just a few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers, scientists, and just ordinary people, be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason -- for then we would know the mind of God."

-- Page 185, A Brief History of Time, by Stephen W. Hawking, 1988, published by Bantam Books, ISBN: 0-553-17325-1.

Dr Hawking holds Issac Newton's chair as Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at Cambridge University and is widely acclaimed as the most brilliant theoretical physicist since Einstein.

Answer 2

Instead of agreeing with everybody about the Universe being created out of the "Big Bang", have you ever thought the Universe has "always" existed & never needed a big bang in the first place. This theory by the way is called the "Steady State Theory" & like a few people I support it because I cannot accept the notion of the big bang theory as it does not explain what happened before the big bang took place. I mean at least with the steady state theory you eliminate the need for time frames & elements etc because they have always existed. My ideas may seem like an easy way out of a very complex problem, but until some form of proof or evidence comes forward explaining what existed before the supposed big bang than I am going to continue to support the "Steady State Theory" !

Answer 3

Q.If you think it's unintelligent or irrational to believe God(s) set everything in motion?

A.This view of motion is outdated. Its the Aristotelian view that matter is in a state of stasis and forces cause objects to move. Sir Issac Newton showed that motion in a continuous state of movement is at rest. It is changes in motion or states of rest that are acted upon by forces. Motion is relative, its not absolute.

Q.do you believe we have the capability to eventually explain pre-Big Bang phenomena

A. Pre or before is a temporal word. If time came into existence at the big bang its senseless to talk about before. However there is a lapse of time between when time came into existence and when space time began to expand. This comes from our failure to merge Quantum mechanics with the general theory of relativity. If scientists are able to come up with a grand unified theory the answer is yes.

I don't believe in the big bang cosmological model. Empty space and solid matter our idealizations. I don't understand how Hubble's law that all celestial bodies is moving away from each other at a speed that is proportional to their respective distances suggest that space itself is expanding. Our 3dimensional view of the Universe as being flat and expanding from a primordial state comes from how our brains have evolved to orient atoms in matter and space. If huamn brains had evolved in a different way perhaps space and matter would be 2 or 5 dimensional.

Answer 4

I don't think it's irrational to believe that a creator set it in motion. I do, however, believe that saying that simply defines the creator as a physical event, and that such a creator would almost certainly not share any of the characteristics generally attributed to God, like benevolence, omnipotence, omniscience, etc..

If you want an explanation of pre-Big Bang phenomena I suggest you read up on M-theory, although it is still currently in its infancy as a theory.

Answer 5

God of the gaps...

*sigh*

Why add god to it? If it works without a supernatural initiator, why add one? Would it be irrational to ask who then initiated your "god"... surely something must have created him too... and someone must have created whoever created god...

Can you see why it's not rational?


As for pre beginning event...I don't know, there are a few promising theories, but the energies and densities tend to go towards infinite which makes it quite complicated. We might be able to analyze singularities at some point.

Here's the thing, if we DO find out the exact state of the universe before big bang... god of the gaps will just go down one level. Then the argumet is "God didn't make big bang happen, he made state-0 universe exist", and then as we get further down in explanation... people will just throw god at each level...

Is that rational? We don't know yet = goddidit; we found out it wasn't god it was X = goddidX; we find out Y made X happen = goddidY....and so on. Doesn't it seem just a bit unecessary and slightly forced?

Answer 6

Just because we can't explain what occurred just before the big bang, doesn't mean some giant had a hand in it.
Does Thor have anything to do with thunder, or is that solely the domain of the thunder-bird? People believed both theories, before the true source of thunder was discovered.
Until we know exactly what took place, I prefer to believe everything evolved naturally, without the interference of some mythical creature.

Answer 7

Don't think it is, (unintelligent or irrational) And yes, we may one day have the capability to explain pre-big bang phenomena. Take a look into string theory of M theory. And Brane theory is another one.

Answer 8

This kind of argument seems to have won over Anthony Flew - from atheism to a vague Deism.

Science progresses slowly on issues such as this. I don't foresee a theory rivaling the Big Bang one anytime soon, and pre-BB is almost by definition unresearchable. One related field of research is on dark matter, or rather the total amount of matter in the universe.

Answer 9

We will eventually answer the Big Bang theory just as we proved our Earth to be round so many times.

Some people claim the Bible tells us our Earth is round. Nevertheless, for centuries the Christian religion refused to accept this scientific fact.

Yes, the core to the investigation into the Big Bang theory at this time is our understanding of quantum particles. Eventually this focus will change. It will take a long time but knowledge, as always, will add up over time and investigation.

Answer 10

I am a believer of the big bang and evolution.
e=mc2(squared, that is)
which translates to...
energy equals mass times the speed of light, squared.
As I'm sure you'll know this is one of Einstein's equations. Energy comes from nowhere. There is your proof in that sentence.So this does cause the Big Bang to make sense. Sure...what created that one organism, and what created that, and so on?
No one is ever going to truly know, but what created God, if there is one??
Honestly, we will never know the answers, but the big bang happens to make more sense to me.