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I'm sorry, but reading through some of your answers here recently about the 10 Commandments, Mosaic Law and other Jewish Law it is apparent that many of you do not understand what "Law" really means.
Please consider Mosaic Law, civil law and ceremonial law. We as Christians have abandoned the last two for the new and everlasting Covenant that Jesus brought into the world. We are still under the Mosaic Law, (i.e., the Ten Commandments, etc....) Are you saying that we do not have to abide within the 10 Commandments anymore?
How about - " I did not come to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it." as Jesus spoke. Much of the Law is not abolished.
Question - what Mosaic Laws do you not think are relevent anymore?

2007-12-29 06:27:53 · 6 answers · asked by craig b 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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i think its impossible to be saved by the law .. but the miracle of a reborn spirit makes it possible to fulfill and walk in it ...

2007-12-29 06:33:10 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

All law, written in stone & ink, is to be done away,
as Paul The Apostle aptly notes in 2Cor3; Bcz
it's all ministrations of condemnation & death.

Solomon the wise guy didn't say some of it,
but "ALL vanity and vexation of spirit" x7: Eccl.

As for the (single)law of (plural)commandments
which Christ "abolished" to be our peace in Eph 2,
the only law that fits this description is Gen 2:17;
and as if it's the surely die lie given by Moses, as
law & grace are compared as lie & truth: John1:17.

For all other laws were notably "added",
and notably "because of the transgession".
But where no law, there no transgression.
Yet the woman was in the transgresssion.
So then the woman, being dec'd, was in the law.
Which things are an allegory, and a mystery to solve.
What law? Not the 10, nor the 613, which came later.
Obviously then the tree law, in 17 of Gen 16 vs 17;
Every tree = grace vs not every tree = law

Many ppl get hung up on Mt 5:17,
again one lousy verse taken out of context,
not knowing that it's as if being suicide-all, to
wanna full fill the law: "the ministration of death",
(we thus judge if one died for all, then were all dead)
unless it's taken to be allegorical, as intended: Gal 4.

Think not that I am (grace) come to
destroy (law) the law, or the prophets.
I am (grace) not come to destroy (law),
but (rather I am come) to full fill (grace).

Law doesn't full fill. It limits to not full.
It's like a tree short of a forest, a short fall.
It's like a happy meal short a frie, a short fall.

God did not send his Son to condemn(law): Jn3:17.
His Son would not accuse (law) anyone: John 5:45.
His Son wouldn't condemn(law) the woman: Jn 8: 3-11.
That God & Christ do not law impute sin: 2Cor 5:19.
That God is light(grace) having no darkness(law).
That Christ is the end of the law: Romans 10:4;
And not the mend of the law: Luke 5:36,37.

Only what began can end. The Law began.
Eternal Grace has neither beginning nor end.

Only way to establish grace is let law be dead testator.

So let us have an end of all law, as in the end written;
which we're told to endure unto to be saved, by grace.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

2007-12-29 07:30:28 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

If you are a christian you not under the Law finish. How ever under the new covenant we do not oppose the law for our lives fullfil the the deep and main purpose of the law. Read the book of romans and ephesians to have a clear understanding of the situation here. Btw in the book of romans you will learn that you can not keep certain parts of law and leave others!

2007-12-29 06:43:33 · answer #3 · answered by TimothyLogan3 3 · 0 0

The God Yahweh has helped me make a new discovery that will force the whole world including Christians to once again follow The Mosaic Law He wrote out for Moses that was to last for as long as mankind inhabits the Earth. Those that refuse will become extinct.

2007-12-29 06:37:35 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Faith in the Son Jesus Christ's death saves you, but a true believer in the Savior will love God and love others. We love because he first loved us and saved us through his Son.

A good book that talks about Law and Grace is the book of Romans.

2007-12-29 06:33:53 · answer #5 · answered by Dreamcast 5 · 0 0

Great question, and as a few of the other responders I have also recently been studying this and found that Yahweh is calling His people out of the Harlot (and its daughters) and into a regathering focused on Him.

To clarify an often misinterpreted scripture, where people say that we are not under the law, but under Grace...or the thought on Romans 10:4 that people read as Jesus is the End of the Law.

What did the Apostle Paul mean when he wrote that a believer is 'Not under the law, but under grace?' Did he mean that a believer was at liberty to sin and break God's law? Obviously not; because elsewhere in his letters Paul advises believers to obey the law. What, then, did Paul mean? The answer is: he meant 'that a sinner who repents is no longer under the curse and death penalty of the law; but is under the grace and mercy of of God.' In other words, Being 'under grace' means to be a recipient of the Almighty's mercy. When a repentant sinner seeks mercy and pardon from the Holy One of Israel, the death penalty for sin is lifted from that person and he/she is placed 'under mercy,''under grace.' That person is 'no longer under the death penalty of the law’ but is now 'under the grace of God.'

After looking closer at Romans 10:4, one would assume the English translation is final, Christ has come to end the law. However, when you look at the Greek word for End, it is the word Telos, rooted in the word Tello, which is the same root for Telescope. Tello means to set out for a definite point or goal.

With this in mind, lets take another look at Romans 10:4. "For Christ [is] the *END* of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." Now lets take out END and replace it with Tello. "For Christ [is] the *DEFINITE POINT OR GOAL* of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

This now gives us a new idea that Christ did not come to END the law, (hence Yeshua stated, "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.") but he is the entire Focus or Focal Point of the law...focus being another play on Telos. The Law points to Yeshua! It's brilliant!

As far as which of the Mosaic Laws are relevant, I believe that Yeshua set the example for us.

He clearly made the case that it is not by observance of the laws is salvation granted, only through Faith. However there is still value in keeping the Laws of Yahweh. It is important to note that the term Law (i.e. Mosaic Law) was not meant in punitive way. The term law means teachings and instructions. However, when we have a rebellious spirit, even simple instruction like "don't touch the hot burner" seems like a "DO NOT command instead of a teaching out of love".

Roughly 25% of the Mosaic Law is Ceremonial Law, of the Levitical type. These are no longer done not because they are no longer valid, but because there is no Temple and Alter. However, even if there was an alter, it would be a sin to offer a sin offering because Yeshua was our final sin offering.

Roughly 25% is Dietary law, which still applies to everyone.

Roughly 25% applies to those in the land, i.e. governing laws

Lastly roughly 25% of the law...hmm it escapes me but you can look at www.vicmord.com for one of Avi Lipkin's books to go deeper...anyway, you get the idea that it's not our "job" to keep every law...that is 1) impossible and 2) turns into legalism.

The Mosaic Laws did not bring salvation, they came to expose sin. Salvation occurred on Pessach (Passover) back in Egypt around 50 days if I recall before Moshe was given the tablets. Ironically, even with Moshe (Moses) leading them, the Jews did not enter the promise land until Yashua (Joshua) was in the lead. If you think about it this way, even with the law (Moses), they still needed a relationship with Yashua to enter the Promised Land. Yashua is also where we get Yeshua (Jesus), which means "The Salvation of Yahweh".

It is so hard to answer a question like yours with a brief answer, so I apologize for writing so much. I am just so excited about this subject and am really thankful that someone shared this information with me. I hope you find it useful.

2007-12-29 08:56:05 · answer #6 · answered by Ga'al 1 · 1 0

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