if god knew?

Question

The story says that god created adam and eve and put them in some magical garden and gave them everything they could want until they sinned.
Okay,people say that god knows everything,there is nothing past or future that god doesn't know.If this story is true and god knew that adam would eat the apple and god knew that their decsendants would have to pay for the sins of adam and eve and god knew that anyone that didn't ask for forgiveness would burn in hell then why would he still allow that to happen.They say that god loves us so much.If god loves us so much then why would he already knowing the outcome let it happen.You can say that man chose to sin,but god chose to ignore the fact that we would sin and condemn us to hell unless we apologize and ask for forgiveness for what he already knew we would do.
Does this not seem kind of wrong to anyone.Should people want to worship a god that made them knowing he would send them to hell for doing what he knows they will do when created

i'm sorry i just don't get it.How can you test someone if you already know what they are going to do.

Answer 1

It's weird.

Adam and Eve walked around the garden with YHWH. They could see him and talk to him. It was not possible for them to question his existence.

So why, knowing that YHWH was what he said he was, would they disobey him and expect to get away with it?

It doesn't make sense.

Answer 2

First of all...your comment on ' burning in hell'
You must get that thought right out of your head. It is purely a Catholic teaching...and incorrect.
Hell [ Hades] will be done away with along with death.
Revelation 20;14
They have confused Hades with the 'lake of fire' which is simple destruction.
And when we die, all our sins are 'paid' for. There is nothing further owing to be punished for.
Romans 6:23
Almighty God can actually choose NOT TO KNOW what we might do.
He gave us free will. We can choose to obey or not.
We can choose to obey the law or rob a bank. AWe know the consequences.
The Bible teaches us the consequences of not obeying Almighty God and the rules are in the Bible.
Adam and Eve had a choice.
Genesis 2: 16,17.
They chose wrong, and we have all died ever since.
But we will not die forever.
God has promised he will remove death and sickness.
Revelation 21;4
And Jesus, with his life, paid for it.
There is no such thing as a free lunch.

Answer 3

My answer probably won't be a lot of help, but at least it will give you more to think about.

You ask why God would create us if we knew we could reject him and be sent to Hell. But I think an even more important question is, Why did God even bother creating us in the first place? That is not a question I have an answer for sadly. Though I seriously doubt it was because of boredom or loneliness (the collective entity Christianity calls God is a mix of three parts; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).

In any case, He did decide to make us. But if He knew we would get ourselves condemned, why not take a preventative action? I have two thoughts on this.

1. I honestly don't think that a god that claims to be who He says He is (a god of love and compassion) could do otherwise. What gave us the opportunity to commit sin? The human free will we were designed with. Well, if that is what would get us sent to Hell, why would a God of love give us that? Well, I think it's clear from the Bible that God wants us to be able to love Him as He loves us. But what is love worth if it is not offered freely? To answer this, what if I made a robot that I programmed to say "I love you". It wouldn't be a deep and meaningful love, the robot would only "love" me because I forced it to. And that doesn't seem a good thing to base a relationship on. I think it would be the same with God. To have a creation that truly loves him and could really understand itself and future, free will would be necessary. And with the risk of loving comes the risk of not loving. And if you don't love God, why would you want to spend all of eternity with him in his place anyway?

2. But I think God did actually take a preventative action, at least from the burn in Hell and separation from God for all eternity part. The was really the whole point of Jesus (an aspect of God himself) coming down to earth and taking the punishment for our sins so that they didn't have to separate us from God and get us sent to Hell. I'm sure there is more than enough information on Christian salvation on the internet to explain that one fully.

So to answer the question more directly. I think God realized exactly the issue you pointed out and probably spent a great deal of time considering it from every angle and how to deal with it. And in the end, He found an answer that would allow his creation to remain fully human, but still have the option of loving Him. I think God has given us a pretty fair chance really, now it's up to each individual to decide where they stand with God and accept responsibility for the choice they make. If you get nothing else out of this answer, at least take the advice not to take your choice lightly.

Answer 4

A) Hell is the purifying fire that cleans the earth so YAHOSHUA can make all things new-- It is not eternal torment. B) He knew (or was at least reasonably certain) that this situation would cause HIS DEATH. Yet He went ahead anyway, knowing that while most people would refuse and deny Him, some would choose life. NOW THAT IS LOVE!!!!

Answer 5

you missed one big part, its called accounting for ones actions.
you do have free will, you have the right to choose.
And He did give us a gift of eternal life thru his Son.
Your parents knew you were going to do wrong, saw it ahead of time, and punished you, and forgave you..but if you deny their rights as parents, and deny their sovereinty, your only pushing yourself away.

if you read the bible, it talks abou this in the NT.
Romans, Ephesians, etc.

God didnt ignore anything, just look at the cross.

next time you say, I knew he/she would do that, think about your question
I knew they would say that,should ring a bell
and dont forget accountable..and one who is suffering the absence of God, has done it to them selves

You need more reading, studying..its clearly in the book.

Answer 6

Christian Universalism does not teach the existence of an eternal hell. Jesus' sacrifice is meant to save us from death and is for all. Here are some resources for anyone interested in Christian Universalism:

Online resources:

http://www.christianuniversalist.org/

http://www.christian-universalism.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universalism

All of the following links are for discussion forums that are Christian Universalist in orientation:

Emergent Universalism Discussion Forum

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emerging-universalist/

Christian Universalism Discussion Forum

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/christian-universalism/

Apokatastasis Discussion Forum
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apokatastasis/

The Church of Interfaith Christians Discussion Forum

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thechu...ithchristians/

Wider Universalist Fellowship Discussion Forum

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WiderUniversalist/

Fundie Universalist Discussion Forum

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fundieuniversalist/

Reconciliation Fellowship Discussion Forum

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/reconciliation-fellowship/

Answer 7

I hear the tinkling of an atheist in the making.....

I'm not making fun of you. Your question shows your thought process is kicking into reality. It just reminded me of my own thoughts when I first started questioning religion, many years ago.

To read it now, just gives me a headache. Good luck.

Answer 8

That is why I question hell's existence.
Since God is love, mercy, and compassion then how could he be capable of sending any of his children to eternal damnation?
Sorry not much help but good question.

Answer 9

It's my understanding that god does not know the definitive outcome of any situation, only that it's a mater of choice.........
Either one takes the road to the left............
Or the road to the right...............

Answer 10

It doesn't make sense because it was written by man who is imperfect. God does not exist.