No one actually knows
Man choose the date to celebrate, but there is nothing in the Bible that states to hold His birth Holy, only the Sabbath is to be held Holy
2007-12-28 15:09:23
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answered by Anonymous
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s2 (above) is correct. The year Jesus was born is not certain. A majority of scholars like 4 BCE because Matthew puts his birth around the same time that Herod the Great died. That we do know was 4 BCE. However, other scholars argue for as early as 7 BCE. There are a number of ingenious theories, but none of them can accommodate all the evidence at hand.
There is a complex explanation involving calculations by a 6th century monk that probably is the basis for our calendar of today which dates Jesus' birth in the year 1. Unfortunately, he couldn't establish the dates of Herod the Great's death nor the census of Quirinius; thus the well-intentioned inaccuracy.
2007-12-28 15:27:37
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answer #2
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answered by argawarga 3
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NOT ON DECEMBER 25th! If that is your answer, your credibility is at about zero for me.
The Bible never says an actual date. Some texts have said March 28th or November 18th. We do know that it was NOT in December (almost 99.9% sure).
It says that he was born at a time when the shepherds were tending to their flocks. Shepherds did not go out in December. It was too cold and the flocks were inside probably. That means that Jesus was born in the Summer or early Fall.
But why December 25th? It is actually the day for the worship of the sun god, a Pagan day. Look it up. It ties in deeply with Pagan sun worship. It just sort of leaked into Christianity.
Just look here: http://www.new-life.net/chrtms10.htm
Thats just one of thousands (literally) of sources saying the same thing. And if you come across one that says otherwise then, well, it's wrong.
2007-12-28 15:16:11
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus as described in the bible? Probably never.
If you take the biblical text as accurate. (A pretty big if) then I believe you have a couple of options. There was a census of Judea in 6 CE. I believe in November.
However, this is a problem as Herod the Great died in 4 BCE, and Herod Archelaus was exiles before the census, so there was no Herod to order the killing of all infants and definitely no Herod the Great.
The other time indication is that the angels (allegedly) appear to the shepherds while they watch their flocks. Shepherds would only do that at lambing time, which would be in the spring.
No one pointed that one out to the Church when they decided to dump his birthday on the winter solstice celebration and his death date on the spring equinox celebration. The other way around would have made a bit more sense (But not enough to be credible.)
2007-12-28 15:17:54
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answered by Simon T 7
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There is absolutely no proof of his existence whatsoever. The only mention in the historical record is Josephus and to my mind all other writers have based their knowledge on those two scraps of information and that, as far as I am concerned, has been proven to be false.
The story of Jesus was/is the same as the stories of many other religious figures. Virgin birth, turning water into wine, raising the dead, curing the sick, died to save our sins etc..etc..was done a few times before by many god type saviour figures prior to the beginning of Christianity, most of these guys had a birthday in midwinter, hence the 25th December thing.
2007-12-28 15:29:15
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answered by Robert Abuse 7
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History convincingly shows that Dec. 25 was popularized as the date for Christmas, not because Christ was born on that day, but because it was already popular in pagan religious celebrations as the birthday of the sun.
"Lacking any scriptural pointers to Jesus's birthday, early Christian teachers suggested dates all over the calendar. Clement ... picked November 18. Hippolytus ... figured Christ must have been born on a Wednesday ... An anonymous document[,] believed to have been written in North Africa around A.D. 243, placed Jesus's birth on March 28" (Joseph L. Sheler, U.S. News & World Report, "In Search of Christmas," Dec. 23, 1996, p. 58).
A careful analysis of Scripture, however, clearly indicates that Dec. 25 is an unlikely date for Christ's birth. Here are two primary reasons:
First, we know that shepherds were in the fields watching their flocks at the time of Jesus' birth (Luke 2:7-8). Shepherds were not in the fields during December. According to Celebrations: The Complete Book of American Holidays, Luke's account "suggests that Jesus may have been born in summer or early fall. Since December is cold and rainy in Judea, it is likely the shepherds would have sought shelter for their flocks at night" (p. 309).
Similarly, The Interpreter's One-Volume Commentary says this passage argues "against the birth [of Christ] occurring on Dec. 25 since the weather would not have permitted" shepherds watching over their flocks in the fields at night.
Second, Jesus' parents came to Bethlehem to register in a Roman census (Luke 2:1-4). Such censuses were not taken in winter, when temperatures often dropped below freezing and roads were in poor condition. Taking a census under such conditions would have been self-defeating.
Given the difficulties and the desire to bring pagans into Christianity, "the important fact then which I have asked you to get clearly into your head is that the fixing of the date as December 25th was a compromise with paganism" (William Walsh, The Story of Santa Klaus, 1970, p. 62).
If Jesus Christ weren't born on Dec. 25, does the Bible indicate when He was born? The biblical accounts point to the fall of the year as the most likely time of Jesus' birth, based on the conception and birth of John the Baptist.
Since Elizabeth (John's mother) was in her sixth month of pregnancy when Jesus was conceived (Luke 1:24-36), we can determine the approximate time of year Jesus was born if we know when John was born. John's father, Zacharias, was a priest serving in the Jerusalem temple during the course of Abijah (Luke 1:5). Historical calculations indicate this course of service corresponded to June 13-19 in that year (The Companion Bible, 1974, Appendix 179, p. 200).
It was during this time of temple service that Zacharias learned that he and his wife, Elizabeth, would have a child (Luke 1:8-13). After he completed his service and traveled home, Elizabeth conceived (verses 23-24). Assuming John's conception took place near the end of June, adding nine months brings us to the end of March as the most likely time for John's birth. Adding another six months (the difference in ages between John and Jesus) brings us to the end of September as the likely time of Jesus' birth.
2007-12-28 15:31:34
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answered by TIAT 6
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There is no evidence that he was borne at all. If he was born in 2BC as mainworry states, he would have missed the only census of the time by about 4 years
2007-12-28 15:11:32
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answered by Nemesis 7
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there was no christ. but the man Jesus you speak of( sort of0 was born at a time when people didn't keep birth and death records. Nobody knows, but its a sure bet it was either in the fall, after the crops were harvested or early spring, before the land was planted.
2007-12-28 15:09:59
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answered by Anonymous
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March or April , and this is according to the bible . She went to see Elizabeth in the 6th month and she had all ready been told what to expect. Her and Elizabeth were both pregnant at the time . Not in her 6th month but 6 month of yr .
2007-12-28 15:22:31
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answered by the only 1 hobo 5
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well read luke 2:8-12 and then think ....could those people from the scripture above slept outside...if it was cold and rainy like December is? he was accually born during sep-oct the bible doesnt say!1 but back then they had a diff calendar!!!
so i sugest you study the bible with someone that nows what they are taking about i learned this from jahova's witnesses they will prove this with da bible....
2007-12-28 15:18:27
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answered by JJR 2
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