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by Betty Boop oop a Doop, an atheist per her own admission

In reference to the question - Where did the matter come from that created the universe?

"Who says it came into being. It was always present from the beginning of time. Why do you think it came into being?"

2007-12-28 13:24:49 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

It just always was???? Sounds like FAITH to me

2007-12-28 13:29:32 · update #1

22 answers

It sounds like you are trying to put someone on blast because you have nothing better to do with your time. Do you have a problem with her answer or her "admission?"

I think her answer is hers, and she has the right to believe as she wishes, and to voice that belief the same as you do.

2007-12-28 13:33:19 · answer #1 · answered by phree 5 · 1 0

Well, like it or not, Atheism is more hypocritical than any other belief.

They claim that faith is pointless, yet the belief that a single cell managed to form and grow to a being that could grasp its own existence has to take more faith than the most ignorant Christian could ever have (ignorant in the sense that they refuse to believe anything scientific).

It must take some faith to believe in something that is constantly changing compared to something that has stayed solid for over 2,000 years and already claims to have the answers whether or not they can be tested or not.

It must take faith to believe that our universe, so organized and predictable, came from an explosion. As we all know explosions usually result in nothing more than a mess, yet from this particular explosion came order.

That must take faith. Anyone claiming otherwise is ignorant and delusional. I don't see why they would say otherwise, atheist or not. But atheists do.

That must require a certain measure of a thing called doublethink. To say something, but disregard what is required to say it.

So what do I think about this Atheist? She's an ordinary atheist that uses faith in all her beliefs, but denies it. So her answer is faith based like nearly all scientific answers which are proven wrong everyday...*

PS- Faith and prediction are different. Faith holding firm to a belief contrary to other theories or evidence because other theories can be disproven.

Atheists have faith but don't believe in it because they don't like to think that what they've spent their entire life doing is very well possibly completely wrong. Same goes for theistic beliefs. The main difference, though, is atheists try to be more confident based on what they have done and uncovered. Christians rarely have anything to uncover, which gives atheists some higher ground despite the fact that they will be disproven in a matter of time.

Thats just my opinion, though...

*I'm going to include this example to make what I'm trying to say more clear:

Scientists have been developing theories and equations and whatever for something called Higgs Fields. They have faith in theory otherwise they wouldn't be developing it still. Once CERN is done with the accelerator we will be able to tell if the Higgs Fields exists or not. But what if it doesn't? Out the window goes all those theories and back to the chalkboard. So, in order to develope those theories, they continue to have faith in Higgs Fields. Otherwise they would give up and go research something else...

2007-12-28 21:44:13 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

The general consensus is that the Universe began with a singularity. Where that came from is not an issue, as everything we know began at that moment. Not faith. Quantum physics.

However, unlike religion which has no explanations for anything other than goddidit, science is constantly evolving and changing as new discoveries are made. So just because we do not know everything NOW, we are learning. That's what a rational, normal person does. They learn.

2007-12-28 21:54:30 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Who ever said that atheists have no faith. The don't have faith in any religion. Not the same thing. Jeesh, you fundies can be so illogical. Most atheists that I know have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow or that the news will be on at 11.00 pm every night on cbs. See the difference? No, you probably don't.

2007-12-28 21:36:00 · answer #4 · answered by ghostwolf 4 · 1 0

No. sounds like fact, energy and matter are neither created nor destroyed; they are constant.

Maybe having the good sense to believe what the vast information of science proves to be true DOES constitute "faith", but at least it is not blind faith.

2007-12-29 10:21:10 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Well when the Universe began it was the beginning of time as far as the human concept of time.
Jehovah was there before the universe and so was Jesus who was the firstborn of all creation (Col 1:15). Neither of them are bound by physical universal constants of space and of time.

The Universe is designed just as on earth a house is or a delicate timepiece such as a Rolex watch is - neither of them built themselves. A creation needs a creator - that's logic!

2007-12-28 21:30:35 · answer #6 · answered by Smiling JW™ 7 · 0 1

According to Stephen Hawking, the most famous physicist alive, the concept of time does not apply in the state of the Big Bang.

Time has shown to be non-constant under different situations.



Read his books if you want.

2007-12-28 21:34:47 · answer #7 · answered by Moo 5 · 1 0

Well, it's more of a condradiction to her. She disbelieves in a God that was always there from the beginning of time because "that doesn't make sense", but she can believe matter has been there since the beginning?

I do kinda wonder though, why did you make such a public question out of this? To humiliate her?

2007-12-28 21:33:04 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

There isn't the slightest evidence that it ever wasn't here. And that is the ONLY answer that is consistent with the First Law of Thermodynamics.

If you think god made it...how did he do it? From nothing?..... See that really doesn't change the basic issue at all.

2007-12-28 21:32:02 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

Well it's not exactly correct; immediately after the big bang the universe was filled with nothing but energy, and it was only later that some of it condensed into matter. (Sorry to nitpick)

2007-12-28 21:31:30 · answer #10 · answered by Nature Boy 6 · 3 0

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