To all atheists, is it wrong to believe in Christ?

Question

The definition of faith: firm belief in which there is no proof.
THERE YOU GO. THERE IS NO PROOF THAT JESUS EXISTED.
happy? but that's why it's called faith. To death to all the ''so called christians'' that uses God's name in vain such as Bush and the roman catholic church. but i just want you atheists to know that there are christians who are good and that try to pursue a life without sinning. most of the teachings in the Bible are morally correct. I dont understand why you criticize us christians when it is OUR lives and we DO have something thats called FAITH. there is nothing bad or horrible that's said in the bible. I've never seen a passage in it that tells us to KILL others. then why do you criticize us.

everything that you might consider 'bad' in the bible such as killing has valid reasons and god has teached humans during those situations certain lessons.

Answer 1

If you Christians kept your faith to yourselves instead of shoving it in our faces at every opportunity and using it as a reason to deprive others of their human rights, then we wouldn't have a problem with you.

Answer 2

No, I don't think it's wrong. I happen to believe that yes, there was very likely a man once like Jesus. I have to assume that was in fact his name. But I believe he was a man that some people decided to idolize and it grew. To believe that he was God's son is a completely different story and that there is even a god - any god - is also a different story. And I'm not entirely sure what that story is.

Personally, I am not bothered by anyone who believes in Christ. I am bothered by the ones who would see me converted or burning in Hell. I am bothered by the ones who want to push THEIR faith on to MY life, and when I decline or refuse, I am supposedly the intolerant one. I am bothered by the ones who believe that I have no morals, think I am being controlled by Satan, believe that I am evil or think that I cannot possibly live a good life simply because I have the audacity to question their reality. Well, they are questioning my reality, but I am not allowed to be annoyed by that because I am the wrong one. I am bothered by the Christians who don't call out those that claim to be Christian, but do horrible things in God's name or use the Bible to justify their own ignorance or intolerance.

Sure the Bible has some good lessons in it. But there are some mighty scary things in there, and if God exists, I am going to want some explanation. I never needed a book to tell me what was right and what was wrong, and I still don't. And I think that's all it is. A book that had some cautionary tales in it to keep the masses in line. I might be wrong. I might not. It's impossible for me to know, so I question.

For those who believe and live their lives without forcing it on others, I have no quarrel with them. For the rest, well, leave me alone, and let me come to my own conclusions.

Answer 3

"Killings were valid...." ? Are you kidding? Killing Job's family just to see if he'd lose faith was valid? Slaughtering entire regions of people so the Jewish tribes could steal the land was valid? Killing his "chosen" people because two of them stopped the ark of the covenant from falling? Or 70,000 people because King David sinned and he didn't want to go into exile? Or how about Abram pimping out his wife and God punishing the men that, unknowingly, married her? Rewarding Abram for it doesn't seem valid.

The teachings are moral - do you mix fibers in your clothes? Eat shrimp? Wear jewelry? Stone your rebellious children? Castrate yourself for the religion? Those are Biblical teachings.

I agree that some Christians are good and true, that doesn't mean that I believe in the bible or the deity in it. I don't criticize good Christians. I do question blind faith and statements that "nothing bad is in the Bible" though.

Answer 4

I don't criticize Christians, I just think they're weak-minded people that use religion as a crutch. Everything good that happens is God's work but at the same time God is not to blame when something goes wrong. Why not? If God has a plan for all of us, doesn't that have to include the tragedies as well? What kind of loving God plans tragedies for each and every one of us? Ever read a story of a church that was burned to the ground or a family that was killed in a car wreck? God's plan in action! HALLELUJAH! After all, God doesn't give us anything we can't handle - just ask suicide victims.

What kind of loving God gives us the option of believing in him and following his word to the letter or suffering an eternity of torture? Isn't he the one that made me? Isn't he the one that gave me a logical, inquisitive mind that thirsts for truth at every opportunity? Should I be punished when he's the one that made me the way I am? And where's he been for the last 2000 years? How about a miracle every 50 years to make sure each generation believes. That would cure a lot of life's problems, wouldn't it? If we were all on the same page with religion.

If you believe that God created everything on earth than do you also support the legalization of marijuana? After all, God created it - how can it be illegal?

Most atheists I know live by the "Live and let live" philosophy. Most are not looking to tell others how to live their lives, nor do they want others to tell them how to live their lives. It's a nice way to live and keeps us from having to live a hypocritical life like 99.9% of religious people do. After all, would Jesus really have a HDTV and surround sound? Would he really have locks on his doors? Would he hoard money in a bank or would he give it away to help others?

It's not wrong to believe in Christ. It is wrong to tell others what to believe.

Answer 5

Of course there are good xtians! There are bad atheists as well! We will, however, disagree on what is 'good' and 'bad' and there isn't the space here to do this.

I don't know how much of the bible you've read, but it is full - absolutely full - of your god killing people and doing all sorts of bad things. Just one example from Matthew:

Families will be torn apart because of Jesus (this is one of the few "prophecies" in the Bible that has actually come true). "Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." Matthew 10:21*

There are many other cases where god tells man to kill other men or where he kills men himself. This one quote from Matthew alone invalidates your argument.

As has been said in other answers, what some xtains want is to impose their beliefs on everyone else. Some of us don't want that.

Answer 6

I agree with much of what you say.

"there is nothing bad or horrible that's said in the bible. I've never seen a passage in it that tells us to KILL others. then why do you criticize us", however, means that you need to reread the book- the old testament god is a brutal, insecure, and capricious monster who murders (and tells others to do so) at the slightest whim

EDIT-"everything that you might consider 'bad' in the bible such as killing has valid reasons and god has teached humans during those situations certain lessons."...well, this blows my assumption that I was answering a rational question right out of the water. Your thinking here is wrongheaded and dangerous, and further evidence that religious faith damages the way people think. What you added is just plain whacked, and is precisely why religion must be taken out of politics, law, and education, and why many people harbor negative feelings regarding the credibility and intellect of those of faith.

Answer 7

The philosophy of Jesus is good but the religious concepts of an existing God are false.

You have faith in men like Paul or Peter who wrote the new testament as true and from God. That faith is what is wrong about religions. Why did humans believe men wrote words are from a God and not from their own minds?

Why accept a man's words are from a God????

There must be proof before one should accept another man's word is from a God which was human inventions from the start.

That is what is wrong with religions of the world. Terrorists are true believers of a God that they think is right and is fighting for their God when they kill. That is what is wrong with religions. It makes humans go crazy for their God of nonexistent. Samething could happen to any religion not just Islam.

Answer 8

Calm down, Beavis.

First off, there is plenty of proof that Jesus existed. i won't bore you with the details right now. The real source of contention is whether or not he was The Christ aka The Messiah aka The Son of God. THAT is where faith in Jesus and God is important. It's the existance of God Himself that has no scientific proof, or at least none that some people will recognize. Granted, I'm one who believes that the discoveries of science and all that falls within the laws of physics is proof in itself of God.

Answer 9

It's not "wrong" in some moral sense. In a factual sense...

I think believers and atheists forget that we are on a Religion and Spirituality forum. Here, we are constantly criticizing each other's beliefs. In life, it might not be the same way. I don't run around deconstructing Christian beliefs at the mall. I don't really discuss religion with my Christian friends.

So in life, I have no problem with your beliefs. However, if you share them here, on this open forum, you are exposing your beliefs to the scrutiny of others.

Answer 10

If you actually study yours, and the other 2 major religions you will find them full of hateful bigotry and plain old nastiness. However that is not the reason I am an atheist.

I honestly could care less what you believe in, its your life. What concerns me is when you and your kind try to infiltrate these baseless fantasies into science classes, the court systems and law making.

If you kept it in your homes and churches it is doubtful any non believer would give a damn.

Answer 11

Unfortunately there are more ignorant bigots then respectable people such as yourself. I have no problem with people believing in what that feel is the correct path in life, even if I disagree. Just don't judge me for the path I choose.

But......"there is nothing bad or horrible that's said in the bible" You are incorrect here however.