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Do you think that when we die.. we go to heaven or hell.. or purgatory...or just roam the earth. with our souls?? and if u think one of these why?? Why would we go to heaven when we die if the bible says that when Jesus comes for the rapture that he'll get all the dead souls in him. and the believers of the church..[that are alive when he comes] to meet in the sky... why then, would we go to heaven when we die. if we're going to meet with him in the sky????

2007-12-28 09:21:10 · 14 answers · asked by ? 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I believe heaven! there is no such thing as purgatory.


God loves you.....God bless

2007-12-28 09:24:46 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Is the Creator really so cruel that he would callously inflict death on us, knowing that this breaks our hearts? No, not the God of the Bible. According to 1 John 4:8, “God is love.” Note that it does not say that God has love or that God is loving, but it says that God is love. So intense, so pure, so perfect is God’s love, so thoroughly does it permeate his personality and actions that he may rightly be spoken of as the very personification of love. This is not a God who takes people in death to be near him.

False religion has left many confused as to the whereabouts and condition of the dead. Heaven, hell, purgatory, Limbo—these and various other destinations range from being incomprehensible to being downright terrifying. The Bible, on the other hand, tells us that the dead are unconscious; they are in a condition best compared to sleep. (Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10; John 11:11-14) Thus, we need not worry about what happens to us after death, any more than we worry when we see someone sleeping soundly. Jesus spoke of a time when “all those in the memorial tombs” would “come out” to renewed life on a paradise earth.—John 5:28, 29; Luke 23:43.Many religions teach that the wicked will go to a fiery hell and be tormented forever. Is this teaching logical and Scriptural? The human life span is limited to 70 or 80 years. Even if someone was guilty of extreme wickedness all his life, would everlasting torment be a just punishment? No. It would be grossly unjust to torment a man forever for the sins that he committed in a short lifetime.

Only God can reveal what happens after people die, and he has done so in his written Word, the Bible. This is what the Bible says: “As the [beast] dies, so the [man] dies; and they all have but one spirit . . . All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust.” (Ecclesiastes 3:19, 20) There is no mention here of a fiery hell. Humans return to dust—to nonexistence—when they die.

In order to be tormented, a person has to be conscious. Are the dead conscious? Once again, the Bible gives the answer: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten.” (Ecclesiastes 9:5) It is impossible for the dead, who are “conscious of nothing at all,” to experience agony anywhere.

2007-12-28 09:29:10 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I think the truth/reality is simple. That the human spirit is needed for the human body to work, and when it ceases to function anymore, the spirit is released, to go back to from whence it came --- and in time it comes back here again in a new body.
Religion or belief does not change the process. While the sand and sand castle analogy does not quite work for me, the above is more relatable to?
Specific religions carry out an intensive "preaching" conversion process on their believers and the general population - and because they use such an isiduous process - their teachings are automatically suspect. They don't simply tell it like it is, and let people decide? No, they offer the carrot (heaven) or stick (hell) approach to coerce you into their belief system - which is false anyway. It is such madness they adhere to.
There is no God also --- because it is a jealous and insane God they talk about... and it is better to believe in no God at all, until he truly shows himself... which he never did - not for 3000+ years ...

2007-12-28 09:34:03 · answer #3 · answered by TruthBox 5 · 0 0

If you have trusted and had faith in the fact that the Lord Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross then when you die you go to be with Him until the rapture and then you get a heavenly body. 2 Corinthians 5: 8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4: 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. Philippians 3: 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
If you have reject the Lord Jesus Christ and what He did on the cross for you when you die the you will got to hell. Luke 16: 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, Then at the white throne judgement you will be judged and then cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 20: 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

2007-12-28 09:33:22 · answer #4 · answered by Ray W 6 · 0 0

Everyone has to face God on judgment day so we will be face to face with the Holy God. From there He will judge us as whether we belived in His Son Jesus as our savior, born of a virgin, walked the earth never sinning, died a sinners death, and rose again on the third day. He took our punishment on the cross so we could be free from our punnishment in Hell for being sinners. And when I say sinners, we are all guily. Who in this world has not told a lie, or stole just one thing. God is a Holy God so if he accepted us just as we are without Jesus it would not be Heaven.
So we all have a choice to make while we are here. Do we belive in faith without seeing and trust Him, or do we take our lives into our own hands?
Check out Hells best keep secret by Ray Comfort.
It may help you further.

2007-12-28 09:34:02 · answer #5 · answered by setfree186 1 · 0 0

Death, by definition, is the cessation of life.

Suppose you're at the beach and you make a nice big fancy sandcastle, complete with moat and turrets and so on. Later, the tide comes in and washes it all away - the sand gets spread around the beach and all trace of your sandcastle disappears.

Where did it go? Well, clearly the castle didn't 'go' anywhere as such - it was a temporary arrangement of grains of sand that went to make up something recognisable to us, and when the sea washed it away, it simply ceased to exist. Another day, someone else might come along and make another castle using some of the same sand that went into your castle, but the one you made is gone and can never exist again.

This is how it is with human beings - we are recognisable to ourselves and others as living organisms, but fundamentally we are temporary constructions of atoms and molecules and will one day simply cease to exist. Just as the sandcastle consists solely of the sand from which it is made, so human beings consist solely of the atoms and molecules of which we are made. When we die, our bodies will be returned to the environment to be incorporated into new living organisms, or to fall as rain, or to make the bedrock of a million years from now. We are ephemeral creatures, a brief pattern of order and complexity imposed on the raw material of the natural world.

Some people argue that there is something called a soul, which is independent of, and can survive the death of, the physical body. What could this 'soul' be?

If it's postulated that consciousness, or awareness, or sense of self resides in the soul, it's difficult to see how this can be reconciled with the complete oblivion which accompanies general anaesthesia. How could a straightforward chemical, injected into the bloodstream, anaesthetise a soul so that it effectively ceases to exist during this time? If consciousness, in the form of a soul, were some kind of supernatural faculty, it would seem implausible that it could be completely disabled by a chemical.

How about some of the other things which we regard as essential parts of what makes a person what they are? How about love, compassion, reason, empathy, memory, conscious thought, character, 'spirituality' and so on? Well, there is really no plausible doubt that all these things are properties of the physical brain - We can alter all of these properties very simply with alcohol or other drugs, and observe how they change in people who have suffered significant brain damage. Previously placid people become uncontrollably violent, intelligent people become imbeciles, and so on. Stimulate the brain artificially, and the subject reports corresponding mental activity, e.g. 'religious experiences'. We can see from brain research that all these things - thought, emotion, sensation, character traits and so on - are correlated with activity in the brain, and some things can be identified with specific areas of the brain.

So, if all these faculties and characteristics of what we regard as the 'person' reside in the physical brain, as seems to be undeniably the case, and they all cease when the person dies, then what is left to be attributed to a 'soul'? As far as I can ascertain: Nothing. If there is no part of us that can continue after death, then there is no 'afterlife'... and if there is no afterlife, then most of religion is null and void.

2007-12-28 09:25:33 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

we living in purgatory right here on earth we make are heaven and hell with the state of mind now the afterlife that's between you and god i believe when we die some of us will go right to heaven but i do believe in hell but i don't believe its eternal i believe its for purification check out NDE's (Near Death Experiences)

2007-12-28 09:29:50 · answer #7 · answered by Front Street 2 · 0 0

When you die, it's just like before you were born: non-existence.

Sorry it's not a better story. Lots of people believe in other alternatives (heaven, hell, spirits, reincarnation). But the naked reality is just simple non-existence.

If it makes you feel better you can believe in one of the myriad of religious fables that abound. But don't look behind the curtain, and you will need to stop asking questions. You need to have blind faith to make th magic work.

Good luck.

2007-12-28 09:28:23 · answer #8 · answered by Twist 5 · 0 1

OH excuse me, if you know this and do sins over and over this doesnt going to take you to heaven ,.. heaven is the place for pure ... Then if a good person as well as the bad person will go to heaven how will the good person will feel that he would have the same as the bad person .. think about that... if you want to go to heaven do good things... and dont just believe that you do whatever and eventually you go to heaven... ... When we die we are going to be questioned about our deeds... and if we do .... good we go to heaven and even for that you have to wait for the day of resurrection... not just like that its not easy....

2007-12-28 09:27:54 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Scripture is quite clear. The dead go to the grave, and their thoughts perish. At the second coming, the righteous are resurrected. There is no secret rapture.

2007-12-28 09:25:59 · answer #10 · answered by hasse_john 7 · 1 0

Christian Universalism does not teach the existence of an eternal hell. Jesus' sacrifice is meant to save us from death and is for all. Here are some resources for anyone interested in Christian Universalism:

Online resources:

http://www.christianuniversalist.org/

http://www.christian-universalism.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universalism

All of the following links are for discussion forums that are Christian Universalist in orientation:

Emergent Universalism Discussion Forum

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emerging-universalist/

Christian Universalism Discussion Forum

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/christian-universalism/

Apokatastasis Discussion Forum
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apokatastasis/

The Church of Interfaith Christians Discussion Forum

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thechu...ithchristians/

Wider Universalist Fellowship Discussion Forum

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WiderUniversalist/

Fundie Universalist Discussion Forum

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fundieuniversalist/

Reconciliation Fellowship Discussion Forum

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/reconciliation-fellowship/

2007-12-30 03:24:33 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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