Confused about Scientology...?

Question

Someone was trying to explain scientology to me, and said that they beleive humans were put on earth by aliens.

This is supposedly their answer to how humans came to be, but what is their answer for how the aliens came to be?

Look, I know its a load of bull, and I'm not looking to convert or anything. I'm just trying to understand where the heck these people are coming from. Their "answer" to humanity's existance seems to only beg more questions.

So, does scientology provide an answer for where they think the aliens came from or not? I'm just curious if they beleive the aliens to be created beings, evolved ones, or if they are content to just think that we came from aliens and dont care WHERE the aliens came from.

Curious if anyone is going to answer my actual question.

Answer 1

Here's a detailed overview including an explanation regarding their "alien beliefs". I hope it helps you to better understand:

Scientology, which questionably calls itself a new "religion", is the brainchild of science fiction writer & occult enthusiast L. Ron Hubbard. The organization, by means of Hubbard’s self created psychotherapy technique called “Dianetics”, claims to be able to help rid members of any & all mental constraints including but not limited to emotional scarring (from this & "past" lives) due to "engrams" (past negative experiences stored in our unconscious mind), psychological disorders & chemical imbalances (the solution is to convince members that these things don't actually exist) & drug dependence (including legally prescribed psychopharmaceuticals which counteract the effects of psychological disorders Scientologists believe to be nonexistent). Their “treatment” of substance abuse includes little more than massive doses of vitamins and extended sessions in a sauna.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianetics#Scientific_evaluation_and_criticisms
Dianetics review: http://dir.salon.com/story/books/review/2005/06/28/dianetics/index.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,812852,00.html
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/detox.htm
http://www.nypress.com/20/22/news&columns/feature.cfm

The official Scientology organization is composed of a number of “levels”. One begins as a “preclear” & works their way up. One must purchase virtually every service crucial to advancement directly from the "church" & at staggering prices. "Auditing", for example, is purchased in 12½ hour blocks, costing anywhere from $200-$750 for introductory sessions to between $8,000 & $9,000 for advanced sessions. Basically, Scientology claims to possess exclusive knowledge of the path to religious redemption & then charges obscene amounts of money for every tiny incremental step towards this end. Visit this link to see how $380,000 is a conservative estimate for the total cost of moving all the way up the Scientology hierarchal ladder: http://www.xenu.net/archive/prices.html
These are the total costs for auditing alone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_as_a_business#Costs
Here’s an explanation of what “auditing” is: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061224182319AA2nnd6

At level OT III (Operating Thetan Level 3), some very strange & fiercely guarded secrets are imparted upon worthy members who have paid enough money to advance to such a level (and no, this isn't a joke): The evil alien ruler Xenu killed millions of aliens (Thetans) from around the universe by kidnapping them, bringing them to earth in golden DC-8 “space-planes”, stacking them around volcanoes & blowing them up by dropping “h-bombs” into the volcanoes. Scientologists believe the souls of these aliens (these souls are "Body Thetans") were captured, brainwashed & released; they then attached themselves to our ancestors (and according to Scientology’s belief in Thetan immortality, they also attached to us during “past lives”) & cause many of our mental & physical ills to this day. Auditing is said to “clear” us of these Body Thetans as well as the “mental implants” they supposedly impose on our minds. http://www.spaink.net/cos/essays/atack_ot3.html
http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/spaink-ot3.html
http://xenu.net/archive/leaflet/Xenu-Letter.pdf
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/OTIII/

Scientology has taken a very hostile stance towards psychiatry & psychiatric drugs irrespective of the fact that some people require medication to remain adequately functional during everyday life. It doesn’t recognize legitimate conditions like autism, epilepsy, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, or ANY neurological disorder / chemical imbalance at all, & the “church” has been known to withhold prescription pharmaceuticals from members (often with harmful & deadly results). The “Church” blames psychiatry for the Holocaust, as well as school shootings & even September 11th. It’s been suggested that Hubbard’s vehement opposition was born of the psychiatric community’s rejection of his “tech” as a valid treatment method, but it’s also possible that Hubbard chose psychiatry as a scapegoat. Organizations like Scientology are notorious for villainizing a specific out-group because their “stand against the enemy” fosters cohesion within said organization, & psychiatry was an effective rallying point considering many people already distrust & oppose the mental health profession.
http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/usa-scientology.htm
http://www.lacitybeat.com/article.php?id=3137&IssueNum=136
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/07/01/sci_psy/index_np.html?pn=1
http://perkinstragedy.org

L. Ron Hubbard, the man behind the creation of Scientology, was & still is a controversial figure. Biographies & lists of personal accomplishments differ greatly between Scientology & non-Scientology publications as the “church” tends to exaggerate & outright lie about his early life, his education, his travels, his achievements etc, preferring to paint a distorted, flattering picture. Several books & articles present facts which flatly contradict these church-published accounts (links to free online copies of these books & articles are provided below), showing conclusively that he was NOT the brilliant, accomplished figure revered by Scientologists. During his autopsy, the sedative Vistaril™ was present in his body, which several of his assistants would later attest was only one of many psychiatric & pain medications Hubbard ingested over the years. It had also been said by many who knew Hubbard personally that at the end of his life he was “a psychopathic insane person screaming about BT's [Body Thetans]…”
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/Bare%20Faced%20Messiah.pdf
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/atack/contents.htm
http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/mom/Messiah_or_Madman.txt
http://lisatrust.bogie.nl/scientology/essays/jeff-hubbard.htm

To be blunt, Scientology is a cult. It employs semi-legitimate psychotherapy & self-help methods to keep people loyal & convinced of its merit while it simultaneously sucks them dry financially & attempts to keep them far away from ANYONE, even friends & family, who would dissuade them from remaining in such a harmful situation. It bullies all known critics, opponents, “enemies”, etc, often through malicious litigation & character assassination. It’s a particularly greedy as well as manipulative & dangerous cult that takes its anti-psychiatry fanaticism to deadly limits.
http://www.solitarytrees.net/racism/harass.htm#start
http://www.factnet.org/Books/SocialControl/scs.html#toc
http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/s/scientology/pignotti/
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/06/24/Tampabay/The_unperson.shtml
http://www.xenu.net/archive/personal_story/funkydonny.html

Answer 2

You expect a real scientologist to bother answering a question like that which obviously wont choose a real answer for best question points? Sometimes I think Scientology couild use a few fanatics in their ranks to keep up with all the questions that get asked here every day.

Im an ex-scientologist.
I spent a couple of years hanging out at a center and taking their courses. Great stuff. They believe in God but not in relying on God to fix things. Along they line they offer a bunch of excellent self-help courses on getting your **** together.

I never heard or read anything about aliens until I started hanging out in places like this. From what I have seen posted, apparently all that alien stuff is "secrets" known only to the people at the top. So 99% of scientologists dont know or care about aliens. And the other 1% deny it.

By comparison, its like telling Christians that they believe Jesus was married to a whore and had kids which is also supposed to be secret vatican-level knowledge. Of course christians wont have any idea what thats all about but if we keep telling them that its what they really believe then we can make fun of them for it.

But Im sure it will be more fun to believe the hate sites and cartoons about it.

Answer 3

Ok. You have the facts but they are alittle mixed up. l. ron. hubbard (founder of scientology), actually believed that humans were developed from clams. (I'm not messing with you - trust me), if you go to Operation Clambake (hence CLAMbake) you can find out that whole story.

And the whole alien thing is not that WE were brought here by aliens but the head of all the aliens brought them here and killed them and now their spirits cling to us and this causes all of our problems of day to day life. And of course only scientology can kill them.

You can also here about this in it's entirety at Operation Clambake. The actual website is: www.xenu.net. Glad to here you aren't planning on joining.

** To answer your question about where aliens came from I'm sorry but I don't have the answer to that.

Answer 4

$cientology makes no direct attempt to explain the origin of these aliens, but some of L. Ron Hubbard's writings indicate that they must have evolved. (Of course, then there's outright wackiness: The overpopulated their worlds, so Lord Xenu flew them to earth on DC-8s, dropped them near volcanoes, and detonated them with hydrogen bombs. Their souls were trapped on earth, forced to watch indoctrination films, then left to roam the earth. When humans evolved, they attached themselves to us, causing all our conflicts.)

$cientologists are not taught this doctrine until they've been thoroughly brainwashed (and spent quite a bit of money on "auditing sessions"). By then, they'll believe anything they are told.

While you are looking into the $cientology cult, be sure to take a look at the resources below.

Answer 5

Rumor has it L Ron Hubbard made a bar bet with Robert A. Heinlein (another version had it as Asimov) that he could make up a religion from his books and people would follow it.

He won.

"The way to make a million dollars is to start a religion." ~L. Ron Hubbard

Their belief on man comes from Scientology: A History of Man
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_History_of_Man
compare terminology with L Ron Hubbard Character Xenu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

Answer 6

I thought Christians were outrageous until I discovered Scientologists. Scientology is proof that any human being can be easily influenced into believing garbage. This is why religions exist....

Answer 7

Well the whole thing is based off an invented religion on an alien planet in one of L. R. Hubbard's early sci-fi books.

So yeah, I guess that's completely possible.

Answer 8

The second-rate science fiction writer who created the whole thing never got into that, and the followers aren't the type to put too much thought into questioning it, obviously.

Answer 9

If you are really interested in this nonsense, pick up a copy of L. Ron Hubbard's "Dianetics", available for cheap at your local used book store. I found the BS content too high to stomach.

Answer 10

Oh look, don't bother trying to understand what amounts to science fiction. Be entertained by it, scientologists are like the trapeze artists in a circus.

Answer 11

Whatever bul***** you have heard before is not comparable to the one created by these people. My suggestion is to maintain a distance from scientologists, it's more made up than the star wars trilogy.