Why did he use the word "us"? Was Jesus a trespasser?
2007-12-28 06:25:19 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
"Trespass", in the way that he used it was in regards to people who do things against us that we don't like, whether intentionally or otherwise.
2007-12-28 06:29:54 · answer #1 · answered by X 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Not in the figurative sense in which he made this statement, it says "forgive those who trespass against us", he was speaking to people doing things to hurt or cause us harm, such as the Jews were suffering back in those days. And I am not sure if this Lord's prayer was actually said by Jesus or just in the Gospels. Either way he did not trespass against anyone because he was sinless until he took all of our sin upon himself to save us at the cross, and then now that he is raised and forgiven by the father he is without trespass again. Maybe if we all focused on not "trespassing' against our fellow man our lives would be so much better.
2007-12-28 06:34:21 · answer #2 · answered by the answer man 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
He was telling Christians how to pray. So, He was
telling them to forgive those who trespass (do wrong)
against them. Us is all the people who should use
this prayer. Jesus is not part of the"us".
2007-12-28 06:36:22 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Why don't you just stick to the original question you asked and edit your response there?
You can look up the original Greek in any concordance and discover what word was used and what it means. Or you can go on thinking the Lord's Prayer specifically tells us only to forgive people who walk across our property without permission.
Your choice.
And Jesus said "our" and "us" because He was giving us an example of how to pray.
2007-12-28 06:30:40 · answer #4 · answered by SoothingDave 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
other translation: forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us. And, no He wasn't ever a sinner like us. It was the disciples who asked Him "Master, how should we pray." They and we are the "us" He is referring to. Hope that helps? Happy 2008!
PS - kind of interesting to really consider how we forgive others, as that's the kind of forgiveness we are saying in the prayer that we should also receive. So, when YOU forgive, are you sincere, or do you really hold the grudge even though you may not talk about it?
PPS TO HOLLY - God's righteous anger in the temple was not sinful -- nor is ours if we see a wrong and try to make it right.
2007-12-28 06:30:37 · answer #5 · answered by tracymoo 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Forgive us for our trespasses, can also be for our debts. Think of it as transgressions against our brothers, part of life is stepping on others toes it is good to forgive and ask for forgiveness.
2007-12-28 06:29:11 · answer #6 · answered by Rational Humanist 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Trespass as in sins, or transgressions. He is asking for god to forgive us as we would forgive those who do us wrong. Jesus would have put homself in there with the rest of us.
2007-12-28 06:32:33 · answer #7 · answered by magix151 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
That prayer was OUR model, not His. The Lord's prayer is found in John 17.
2007-12-28 06:31:43 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
This is a prayer Jesus taught his disciples.
2007-12-28 06:30:56 · answer #9 · answered by Averell A 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
If you are talking about the Lord's Prayer, different versions say "debts" and some say "sins".
2007-12-28 06:28:46 · answer #10 · answered by ? 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋