Romans 6:5 - 6:15 says that we are dead to sin and no longer under its power?

Question

yet we see Born Again people fall under sin's power every day. Is the Bible wrong?

"For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection...For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God...consider yourselves to be dead to sin....
For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace"

Answer 1

there are all just evil, and sin because they want to... not because they are under anyone's power... muhaha

Answer 2

The Bible is not wrong. The truth is that Christians are sinful creatures. Although true Christians are free from the bondage and enslavement of sin, there is still sin that dwells within us. True Christians can declare victory over sin but total, absolute victory is not a reality until we receive our resurrected bodies. The Apostle Paul said in the book of Romans "I do what I don't want to do and I don't do what I want to do." The process of putting indwelling sin to death is called sanctification. There is no quick and easy way to do this. I wish there were but there isn't. There is no book or conference that will provide a shortcut. The process is accomplished through active daily obedience to Christ, trust in God's grace, partnership with other Christians around you, and the presence of the Holy Spirit.

Answer 3

No, the Bible is not wrong.
Before Jesus' death on the cross, the penalty of sin was death and there was no way out of having that penalty applied to the sinner. Now after, His death the penalty has been paid for us so that while the penalty still is in force, He has paid if for us on our behalf.
We do still sin unfortunately but sin no longer is our only option. With continued growth spiritually we can actually with the help of the Holy Spirit sin less than before. It is also the conviction of the Holy Spirit that causes us to have exceeding remorse because of our sins when prior to our acceptance of Jesus, those sins were of no consequence to us.

Read Paul's entire epistle to the Romans for the full development of the idea.

Hope that helps.

Answer 4

The Bible is never wrong...it just needs to be read in the right context and perspective. Here's what I think. Sin is inescapable and will always be around us...the choice is ours on whether we fall into it or not and it is also impossible to be perfect and not sin.

The best thing is that one of Jesus names is "Jehovah Tsidkenu" which means that Jesus is our righteousness. When Jesus died on the cross he paid for all (not some or just the current) our sins (I John 1:9) and He is like a blanket of righteousness so that when God looks at us, He doesn't see us full of sin (which we all have b/c we all have a sin nature), He sees us in a covering of righteousness.

Hope this helps!

Answer 5

St. john says that if one says that he has not sinned he makes God a liar since all have sinned, the old testament also says at some point that the just man falls seven times ie. many times. So it is hypocritical to consider that one can never sin... To benefit from the bible reading, read the whole bible and ask someone who understands it to explain it to you like the Ethiopian did with Philip, private interpretation or free which every way interpretation of the bible does not make sense

Answer 6

It says "consider" yourself dead to sin. It is an issue of spiritual reality. Saved believers have had the curse of the law removed from them, by faith in Christ's sacrifice. What they have not had is the effect of the law and sin removed, which is why we still die.

This is also why Paul later tells us that we do what we do not want to do and do not do that which we wish to do, because our sin nature is continuously struggling with our new redeemed spiritual nature.

The concept is known and the "already and not yet." We are already redeemed in Christ and will spend eternity with Him and are counted as righteous, yet we still are sinful people who live in a sinful world.

Ath

Answer 7

The Apostle Paul was quoted as saying that we are "ALL apt (liable) to sin...." He didn't categorize saint and sinner; he said ALL! The idea behind Romans 6:5-15 is that the MOMENT you fully accept Christ and follow the plan of salvation you are dead to your sin and are no longer under it's power. BUT, from that moment on, YOU have to cultivate your relationship with God through study, worship, prayer and etc. in order to keep from falling back under sin's power. He died once and for all for our sins, BUT WE have to empower our FLESH daily in order to maintain the control HE gives us over sin and temptation. The Scripture says, "Mortify (kill, stop doing) YE (YOU, not Him) the deeds of the flesh......" When we call on Him to help us overcome sin, He looks at the sincerity within us when we pray and protects us. But if we halfheartedly ask and/or don't follow through with OUR part, we're wasting our breath for the Scripture says, "The EFFECTUAL, FERVENT prayer of a RIGHTEOUS MAN (one who cultivates their relationship with God) availeth much."

Answer 8

The term dead to sin, refers to when a person first came to know the Lord. That stain of original sin is removed.


For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace"

This refers to the fact, that we need never BE slaves to sin-that though Christ, we truley are FREE FROM SLAVERY TO SIN.

YES WE will FALL, BUT WE ARE FREE FROM SLAVERY TO SIN, THROUGH CHRIST!

Answer 9

Like all the promises of Scripture, these things are only laid hold of by faith. Actually if you continue to read the chapter it makes it very plain that if you make the wrong choice and yield to the desires of the flesh, you will come under the power of sin:

"Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted. You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. "
Romans 6:16-18

So Paul is showing us the way out from sin.
It still remains up to you to take it.

Answer 10

it will not be a master of me period, for I do not need the messiah to die for me. I am of the righteous, and only the sinner need a messiah. To become righteous you have to seek God's face and understand how to be good. Romans 3:11. Without his rightheousness you can not make it into heaven unless you have the cross. Matthew 9:12-13. says he did not come for the righteous but for the sinner. This does not say we are all sinners in need of a messiah.

Answer 11

Great question. You have to see the context that it is written in though. The person talking to you in Romans 6 is Paul. Paul also writes in the very next chapter of Romans...

Romans 7:14-25
We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do... So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin...

Jesus said in Mark 10:18:
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.

1 John 1:8-10:
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.