That is an answer. Just as this is an answer. Don't ask questions if you don't like the replies that go against your beliefs.
2007-12-26 17:59:28
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answer #1
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answered by Patrick 4
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No we are tired of people coming to our door and bugging us about something they don't have any idea about . let me ask you this question { habit as i like to make people think for them-self instead of parrot the stuff someone told them }why do you as a christian care what anyone else thinks if you really believe . I mean why are you asking others here to reinforce your " belief " system ? Is it that many things no longer make sense to you ? This is a place to learn new things some from both sides forget that some because they get " stalkers " or trolls and end up being harassed this can trigger off a persecution complex { and believe me nobody has a trained in prosecution complex like a christian } . With the fake newsletters and lies told Christians about other beliefs by the leaders of their own churches to keep you dropping more into that collection plate it is no wonder to me that Bush is doing so well in his war of aggression .
2007-12-26 18:31:30
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answer #2
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answered by Anonymous
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Hi JoHanna,
Can't we all get along...right?
This "controversy" will always be with us as long as there are a diversity of folks on the planet.
It does appear that even now, there are "two classes" of people...those that serve a loving Heavenly Father, and those who do not.
Yet, like myself at one time, many people have just been burned by some erroneous teachings regarding God's character. I can't answer for everyone, but, the idea of a "God of love" burning people forever and ever without relief just made me want to have nothing to do with "God."
Fortunately, the Bible tells a beautiful portrait about the character of God. He will make an utter end of sin and whatever is attached to it and the issue of sin and rebellion will not arise a second time (Nahum 1:9)
Therefore, no one is burning in "hell" right now. That will not occur until the end of this world. (Matthew 13).
God is not vindictive like that to torture people forever and ever. The adversary, sin and sinners will finally be destroyed in that lake of fire and will be no more. Rev 20
God is not going to immortalize sin and keep it around for all eternity. He only promised everlasting life to believers in Him and not a life in never ending torment to the wicked - they will perish. John 3:16
This is good news and shows that God is love and just at the same time.
So why do some make those comments that God is not real? We should ask them.
However, David stated in the Psalms 14:1 -
"The fool has said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that does good."
Christ concluded the matter in Matthew 12:30 -
"He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad."
2007-12-26 18:33:15
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answered by Anonymous
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Well, I'd think it'll differ from person to person why they do this, some (like a certain professor at our uni) feels the urge to force their beliefs (or more like, lack of) on others because what they believe must be right; others may have gotten persecuted by believers for being a non-believer and are lashing out because of that; don't really think there's a one simple answer for this. There are many issues and preconceived notions that people tend to have about religion, the Bible, or God that may also factor into this. Though hopefully we'll get to hear the answer from an atheist, eh?
2007-12-26 18:06:16
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answered by artemyl 1
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I dunno
why do theists get so bent out of shape when people say they lack a belief in gods - in real life as well as on the internet. I bet you don't get many atheists contradicting you offline whereas the same can't be said for the theists
2007-12-27 01:24:57
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answer #5
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answered by Anonymous
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How is me stating that I don't believe in your god being insecure or trying to make you feel bad? I think you are projecting dear.
I actually feel pure apathy when it comes to whether or not someone believes in a deity.
But if you ask a question in a provocative or insulting manner (like you just have), yes you will get rude replies. You will even get rude replies if you don't do that just because this is R&S.
2007-12-26 18:23:37
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answered by Anonymous
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We don't, at least I don't. We get bent out of shape when someone posts a questions that goes, Why don't atheists do this, why don't they do that, did you know atheists were this or that or you need to that. Similarly when we say something like we don't get this or that about the christian religion or God is this or God is that Christians and religious people get bent out of shape. It goes both ways.
2007-12-26 18:06:38
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answer #7
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answered by amy 2
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If it's what you believe and you believe it to be true...why does it make you feel bad.
Some particularly spiteful (against atheists) believers may irk me, but it doesn't make me feel bad about my views... 'Course, being a non believer, we've had to have a thicker skin forever anyhow given the hate people like me have been shown for generations, so maybe that helps.
Perhaps it is time for believers to learn that one little thing from us and try to grow a thicker skin. The more diverse the world gets, the more you're gonna' need it.
2007-12-26 18:07:53
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answered by Anonymous
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Most atheists today haven't actually decided to be atheists, it just sort of happens as they figure that "God" probably isn't there because "He" won't answer my prayers.
True atheism is a philosophy that has to be studied like any other philosophy or like any religion (though it is not, I repeat, NOT a religion). There will always be people who are offended by the idea of "God" just as there will always be people who are offended by others' lack of belief in "God" It works both ways, you see. It took me 9 years to decide that I didn't believe in "God" and many tries at religion. I actually researched atheism, which I doubt many people do anymore, and found that it held the answers I was looking for, mainly that there is no answer. Its not insecurity and I don't think that it is to make people feel bad for what they believe, it just seems really silly to some people that others can still believe in things like "God" and angels and stuff.
Atheists are skeptical of all supernatural beings and cite a lack of empirical evidence for the existence of deities. Others argue for atheism on philosophical, social or historical grounds. Although many self-described atheists tend toward secular philosophies such as humanism and naturalism, there is no one ideology or set of behaviors to which all atheists adhere.
As most atheists come from a Judeo-Christian background, we once believed what you believe. We believed in the baby Jesus lying in a manger at Christmas. We believed that the Holy Spirit descended like a dove. We believed that Jesus died and rose again three days later. But when you really start to think about it and question, it becomes fairly clear (at least I think so) that its all based on older myths. Zoroaster, Mithras, Horus, etc. There are hundreds of solar deities (son-gods/sun-gods) just like Jesus in other cultures. Science and epistemological arguments come into play, the metaphysical, psychological, sociological and economical arguments, logical and evidential arguments, and anthropocentric arguments. We find evidence of atheism in ancient India, Greece, Rome, the Medievals, the Renaissance, the Industrial Age, and into modern times. So many of us feel that atheism shouldn't be treated as some new, wacky idea, but as a belief system that goes back centuries.
Many atheists are defensive also because of persecution. In Denmark, Norway, and Sweden religious ceremony is very much a part of state government, which many atheists feel is discriminatory. The same is felt in the USA, where the seperation between church and state is ever shrinking. In the United States, there is widespread disapproval of atheists. According to motherjones.com, 52% of Americans claim they would not vote for a well-qualified atheist for president. More recently a 2007 Gallup poll produced nearly identical results. A 2006 study at the University of Minnesota showed atheists to be the most mistrusted minority among Americans. American courts have regularly, if controversially, interpreted the constitutional requirement for separation of church and state as protecting the freedoms of non-believers, as well as prohibiting the establishment of any state religion. Atheists often sum up the legal situation with the phrase: Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion.
In the State constitutions of Arkansas, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Maryland, acknowledgment of "God" or the "Supreme Being" is a must if you want to run for office, any elected position.
So, you see, maybe it is years of pent up frustration at the Corporate Christians or the Fundamentalists who DO push their religion on us constantly that make us lash out at Christians. We know the story and we chose not to believe it. Just leave it at that. We don't want to deny you your belief in "God", just expect that there are some people out there who differ in opinion when it comes to the "Big Guy In The Sky".
Check in on the atheists' questions from time to time. You'll find just as many Christians bent out of shape by the audacity to deny Jesus' godliness as you would find atheists upset at the fact that so many people still feel the need to say "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays". They're well founded. And if their defense makes you "feel bad about what they believe", then maybe it is you who are insecure and unknowledgable about other people's beliefs.
2007-12-26 18:30:12
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answered by theatre_rat_7583 2
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Hmmm? Can only speak for myself. No matter how many questions I read and no matter what people say they believe, I retain my original shape. I shape bend only on those rare occasions when asked to do tricks or retrieve a fallen object from a closet floor or from under the sink.
2007-12-26 18:13:27
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answered by Anonymous
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Evangelical atheism. It's the worlds newest religion.
It baffles me that that someone that claims to have no belief in something obsesses over that very thing they claim to have no belief in as much as the evangelical atheist's on here do. That certainly cannot be healthy.
One thing that is amusing though is how the evangelical atheist on here with their self professed superior intellect cannot seem to come up with a question better than "If God is all powerful can He make a pizza so hot that He cannot eat it?".
2007-12-26 18:09:22
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answered by Anonymous
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