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All references that I can find say that God is one. I cannot even find the phrase "persons in the Godhead". I hear this stated a lot. Could somebody please tell me where this comes from.

2007-12-26 10:57:52 · 31 answers · asked by Southern Apostolic 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

31 answers

THERE is

NO TRINITY

THERE IS BUT ONE GOD

ONE ONLY

not three persons not three anything
JUST ONE
ALL ONE


as people are ONE so is GOD

people have a BODY
SOUL
SPIRIT


SO IS GOD
BODY(Glorified)
SOUL ( who He is )
SPIRIT ( what He is)


ONE ONLY ONE
FOREVER ONE


ONE

2007-12-26 11:02:13 · answer #1 · answered by hghostinme 6 · 1 6

Not a God of Confusion"




HOW could such a confusing doctrine originate? The Catholic Encyclopedia claims: "A dogma so mysterious presupposes a Divine revelation." Catholic scholars Karl Rahner and Herbert Vorgrimler state in their Theological Dictionary: "The Trinity is a mystery . . . in the strict sense . . . , which could not be known without revelation, and even after revelation cannot become wholly intelligible."

However, contending that since the Trinity is such a confusing mystery, it must have come from divine revelation creates another major problem. Why? Because divine revelation itself does not allow for such a view of God: "God is not a God of confusion."—1 Corinthians 14:33, Revised Standard Version (RS).

In view of that statement, would God be responsible for a doctrine about himself that is so confusing that even Hebrew, Greek, and Latin scholars cannot really explain it?

Furthermore, do people have to be theologians 'to know the only true God and Jesus Christ whom he has sent'? (John 17:3, JB) If that were the case, why did so few of the educated Jewish religious leaders recognize Jesus as the Messiah? His faithful disciples were, instead, humble farmers, fishermen, tax collectors, housewives. Those common people were so certain of what Jesus taught about God that they could teach it to others and were even willing to die for their belief.—Matthew 15:1-9; 21:23-32, 43; 23:13-36; John 7:45-49; Acts 4:13.

2007-12-26 19:13:08 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God (elōhiym) created the heaven and the earth.

Strong's

elōhiym - Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God;.

"our image"

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made...14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Acts 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.


The Doctrine of the Trinity: proved from Scripture

Matthew 3: 16, 17

Matthew 28:19

Romans 8: 9


1 Corinthians 12: 3-6

2 Corinthians 13: 14

Ephesians 4: 4-6

1 Peter 1: 2

Jude 1: 20, 21

Revelation 1: 4,5

Divine titles applied to the three persons in the Trinity

Exodus 20: 2

John 20: 28

Acts: 5: 3,4

Each person in described as:

Eternal

Romans 16: 26

Revelation 22: 13

Hebrews 9: 14

Holy

Revelation 4: 8

Revelation 15: 4

Acts 3: 14

1 John 2: 20

Omnipresent

Jeremiah 23: 24

Ephesians 1: 23

Psalms 139: 7

Omniscient

Acts 15: 18

John 21: 17

1 Corinthians 2: 10,11

Creator

Genesis 1: 1

Colossians 1: 16

Job 26: 13

Sanctifier

Jude 1: 1

Hebrews 2: 11

1 Peter 1: 2

Author of all spiritual operations

Hebrews 13: 21

Colossians 1: 29

1 Corinthians 12: 11

Source of eternal life

Romans 6: 23

John 10: 28

Galatians 6: 8

Teacher

Issaiah 54: 13

Luke 21: 15

John 14: 26

Issaiah 48: 17

Galatians 1: 12

1 John 2: 20

Raising Christ from the dead

1 Corinthians 6: 14

John 2: 19

1 Peter 3: 18

Inspiring the prophets, etc.

Hebrews 1: 1

2 Corinthians 13: 3

Mark 13: 11

Supplying ministers to the Church

Jeremiah 3: 15

Ephesians 4: 11

Acts 20: 28

Jeremiah 26: 5

Matthew 10: 5

Acts 13: 2

Salvation the work of

2 Thessalonians 2: 13, 14

Titus 3: 4-6

1 Peter 1: 2

2007-12-26 19:08:19 · answer #3 · answered by Martin S 7 · 1 2

Trinity
Why did God’s prophets not teach it?
WHY, for thousands of years, did none of God’s prophets teach his people about the Trinity? At the latest, would Jesus not use his ability as the Great Teacher to make the trinity clear to his followers? Would God inspire hundreds of pages of Scripture and yet not use any of this instruction to teach the Trinity if it were the “central doctrine” of faith?

Are Christians to believe that centuries after Christ and after having inspired the writing of the Bible, God would back the formulation of a doctrine that was unknown to his servants for thousands of years, one that is an “inscrutable mystery” “beyond the grasp of human reason,” one that admittedly had a pagan background and was “largely a matter of church politics”?

The testimony of history is clear: The Trinity teaching is a deviation from the truth, an apostatizing from it.

The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.

The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

2007-12-26 19:03:23 · answer #4 · answered by Just So 6 · 3 3

The trinity is in the whole bible.

Who raised Jesus from the dead?

One scripture says God raised Jesus from the dead.
Another says the Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead.
A third scripture says Jesus raised Himself from the dead.

Which one is correct? Could it be that they are all correct?

I can provide you with references which will make it easy for you to locate the above listed scriptures, but that would not be doing you any favors. You need to open the bible on your own and study it for yourself and come to your own conclusions. After all, if I could convince you, in just a few scripture references, that the Trinity is in the bible, someone else could convince you of the opposite just as easily. You must come to you own independent conclusion and the God, in the bible provides ample evidence that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct persons, yet One God. No, the word "Trinity" is not in the bible, but the concept certainly is - Undeniably so!

Treat the evidence the bible presents in the same way you would treat evidence presented in a court of law. Remember, evidence often consists of several pieces that individually do not provide enough testimony to come to a conclusion, but when you couple several pieces of evidence together and look at them as a whole there is only one "reasonable" conclusion that can be drawn.

God bless you.

2007-12-26 19:17:57 · answer #5 · answered by the sower 4 · 0 2

Genesis 1:26 John 1:1 John 14:6 1 John 5:7

2007-12-26 19:00:33 · answer #6 · answered by 2telldatruth 4 · 2 1

This is a very good question.

I think that it is taken for granted (the Trinity) Because of the Scriptures below as well as many other references after the Lord was resurrected of the Holy Spirit, God the Father and Jesus the Christ.

1John 5:7-9
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one. If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater; for this is the witness of God which He has testified of His Son.

2007-12-26 19:13:55 · answer #7 · answered by B Baruk Today 6 · 2 1

What is the trinity?
If we are willing to accept and teach the truth as outlined in Ephesians 4:4-6, we can do away with a lot of confusion and division among the local churches and denominations. Many false teachers have lied to us and tried to make us do certain things to help the Lord out and to make us have a part in our salvation, but when we know the truth, we can see that He did it all.

Ephesians 4:14 that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive.

Ephesians 4:4 there is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5. One Lord, one faith, one baptism. 6. One God and father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

There is one body: This is the Body of Christ (the church Eph 1:22-23), which is the only true church for this age. There are other churches in the Bible but they are not the body of Christ (Acts 7:38; Matt 18:17). One Spirit: This is the Spirit of Almighty God and this Spirit is God for God is a Spirit. If we are true believers, then we have the Spirit of God and we become the Temple of God.
The Holy Spirit is God:
1. He strives (Genesis 6:3)
2. He teaches (Luke 12:12).
3. He convicts (John 1:8).
4. He directs (Acts 13:2).
5. He makes intercession (Romans 8:26).
6. He inspires (II Peter 1:21).
7. He sanctifies (I Peter 1:2).
8. He is God (Acts 5:3-4).
9. He is truth (John 16:13).

One hope: This is that which is called that blessed hope. It is also called the catching away or rapture of the church (I Cor 15:51-53; I Thes 4:13-17). This is when we shall all not die but we will all be changed. This earthly body must be given a heavenly body. (I Cor 15:40-44). One Lord: There can be but one Lord for the Body of Christ and He is the Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us and rose again. This same Lord is also God:

The Lord Jesus Christ is God:

1. He has all power (Matthew 28:18).
2. He is all knowing (Col 2:3).
3. He was in the beginning (John 1:1).
4. He is God (John 8:58).
5. He gives redemption (Col 1:14).
6. He is present everywhere (Matthew 28:20).
7. He became a Man (John 1:14)
8. He created all things (Eph 3:9; Col 1:6).

One faith: This is not our faith but the faith of Jesus Christ (Romans 3:22; Gal 3:16). One baptism: This is the baptism of the Spirit that places us into the Body of Christ (I Cor 12:13). This is not the water baptism that was done in other ages.
One God and Father of all:
1. He makes covenants (Genesis 9: 1-17; Gen 12:1-3)
2. He is one God (I Chronicles 8:6).
3. He is a redeemer (Isa 63:16).
4. He is the master (Mal 1:6).
5. He is the I AM (Ex 3:14).
6. He is JEHOVAH (Ex 6:3).
7. He is by whom the whole family in haven and earth is named (Eph
3:14-15).
God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are all God and all three are one.
1. The Spirit raised hi
2. m (Romans 8:11).
3. The Father raised him (Romans 6:4).
He raised himself (John 10:1). 8; John 2:19-20

2007-12-26 19:26:25 · answer #8 · answered by Ray W 6 · 0 2

The first mention is in the first book Genesis the last is in Revelation the last book of the Bible.

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Genesis 1 explains God said let US create man in OUR image.

Genesis 2 shows how man is created from the dust (flesh)
God breathed life into him (spirit)
and man became a living soul (soul)

God created man above the animals more than flesh which returns to dust but with an eternal spirit.

2007-12-26 19:04:01 · answer #9 · answered by djmantx 7 · 0 1

It is Greek dogmatics, it was the only way that people could understand (and even there...) how can God act and interact with humans in different ways, it was also the way to understand the divinity of Christ, I suggest that you read a book by Jonathan Hill, the history of Christian Though and also I found that "Behold the pierced one" by the pope was quite good (I'm not myself a Roman Catholic but an Anglican so that tells you how good the book is)

2007-12-26 19:14:36 · answer #10 · answered by FREDERIC L 2 · 1 1

Hey!

I must be reading a different Bible, people. Because my Bible says at 1 John 5:7-8 the following:

"For there are three witness bearers, the spirit and the water and the blood, and the three are in agreement."

If there is such a thing as a Trinity, explain to me, PLEASE, why Jesus prayed to HIMSELF when Judas was leading men to him to take him away. Jesus prayed (to himself?) that would God please allow him just a little more time on Earth to help more people. But it was time for his sacrifice, and God did not agree with Jesus on this one. So why beg yourself for a change, and then deny yourself said change?

Makes no sense to me...

I believe that God is, well, just God. And that Jesus is his only begotten son, the one he created first, and, through him, he created everything else (in other words, God gave Jesus the power to do the creating, and directed him in using said power). I also believe that the holy spirit is just the power God uses.

But don't quote me on that one. I may have gotten bits wrong there. Anuway, if you want to know my beliefs fully on the Trinity look at the following article entitled Is The Trinity Clearly a Bible Teaching? found at:

http://www.watchtower.org/e/ti/article_03.htm

Also, if you would like to know how the Trinity started, may I suggest the article called How Did the Trinity Doctrine Develop? found at:

http://www.watchtower.org/e/ti/article_04.htm

Hope that all helps you understand better. It all fits in my mind perfectly.

Luv ya,
Tashi :)

P.S. I don't understand the Genesis quote, either. If he's just one person, why does he say we???? Why in the world are we attributing God with multiple personalities? Do you believe God is mentally unstable???

It doesn't make sense!

2007-12-26 19:24:08 · answer #11 · answered by LilLaTLuv 4 · 1 4

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