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Will my name be written, erased, rewritten, scratched out and then written again in the Lamb's Book of Life?

2007-12-26 08:42:25 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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"Are you saved?" "As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13)."

The BIG "IF":

There actually are a lot of exception clauses in the New Testament. You simply choose not to see them. Matt 6:14-15, “For IF you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you; but if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”

Does that apply only to the unsaved? If so, where does it say that?

Well, if we look at Matthew 18:23-35, it applies to the saved. The debtor can’t pay the debt. His Lord has mercy on him and cancels the debt (he’s saved!). The forgiven servant doesn’t likewise show mercy to a fellow servant. The Lord calls him back and revokes His mercy and has the reprobate handed over to the jailers until he should pay every penny…which he can’t pay…so he’s there forever.

Romans 11:17-23, the wild branches (Gentiles) that are grafted into the olive tree (Christ) will remain “PROVIDED you continue in His kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off.” John 15:1-6, the branches (Christians) of the vine (Christ) will be cut off, cast forth to wither, then be gathered and burned if they do not bear good fruit.

Heb 6:4-8, “For it is impossible to restore to repentance those who have once been enlightened…IF they then commit apostasy…”

Gal 5:2-4, “IF you receive circumcision…You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.”

1 Tim 5:8, “IF anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his own family, he has disowned the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.”

I could go on…and on…and on.

1 Cor 4:3-5, “...I do not even judge myself. I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby acquitted. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore, do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes…” Yet, you are pronouncing judgment on yourself. You are saved. You’re going to Heaven. You are presuming upon the Lord. Something which Paul himself didn’t do.

1 Peter 1:17, “And IF you invoke as Father Him Who judges each one impartially according to his deeds, conduct yourselves with fear throughout the time of your exile.”

Phil 1:12, “...work out your on salvation in fear and trembling.”

Heb 10:29, “How much worse punishment do you think will be deserved by the man who has spurned the Son of God, and profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was SANCTIFIED [that means he was a Christian], and outraged the Spirit of grace?” Do you really think the person described here goes to Heaven?

1 Cor 15:1, “Now I would remind you, brethren, in what terms I preached to you the gospel, which you received, in which you stand [Christians], by which you are saved, IF you hold it fast,” [exception clause].

Paul himself didn’t seem to have this “assurance” of salvation that you are so confident of: Phil 3:10-14, “...that, IF possible, I may attain the resurrection from the dead. Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect; but I press on to make it my own…I do not consider that I have made it my own; but one thing I do, forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.”

1 Cor 9:24-27, “Do you not know that in a race all the runners compete, but only one receives the prize? So run that you MAY obtain it…I do not run aimlessly…but I pommel my body and subdue it, LEST after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.”

Ezek 33:13-16, “Though I say to the righteous [saved, right?] that he shall surely live [assurance of salvation, right? God has told him he shall surely live] YET [exception clause] if he trusts in his righteousness and commits iniquity, none of his righteous deeds shall be remembered; but in the iniquity that he has committed, he shall die.” If he dies in iniquity, that isn’t a good thing is it? Yet, he was righteous and he was told by God that he shall surely live. Once saved, always saved? Don’t think so.

Regarding the parables of the Good Shepherd and the Lost Coin. Those parables make no sense under your theology. How could a sheep be “lost” if once saved always saved is true? How could the coin be “lost” if once saved always saved is true? Who is the lost sheep Jesus goes to find? Can’t be one of the saved, can it? They can’t be lost, can they? Can’t be one of the unsaved, they’re not one of the sheep, are they? And, if none of the sheep can get out, as you proclaim above, how did it get lost? Sorry, but your theology makes these parables a load of nonsense.

Also, look at the parable of the Prodigal Son. Didn’t the Father allow the son to leave home? You seem to say that can’t happen. The Good Shepherd would never open the gate and say to the sheep, “Go ahead and leave if you want to.” Well, the Father in the parable of the Prodigal Son did, didn’t he? What Father is the parable actually referring to? And, how is the Prodigal Son referred to by the Father? As being in no danger of losing his salvation no matter how much he sinned? No. As being still saved even if he has backslidden a bit? No. The Father describes the prodigal son as being “dead!” Dead!!! Fits Catholic theology perfectly. Fits once saved always saved theology not at all. You seem to think that Jesus will keep us against our wills. Nowhere does the Bible say such a thing. If we are part of the family, and we want to leave…He lets us go. You have a big problem with the prodigal son.

Finally, in regards to this, let me ask you this question. When Adam and Eve were created, were they saved or were they unsaved? They were saved, right? I mean, they spoke directly to God. He walked in the garden where they were, didn’t He? So, they were saved. Yet, they sinned. Not just any sin, either. They sinned THE sin…changed all of history. Changed everything. And, what happened?
Were they still allowed into the garden?

Absolutely not.

They got tossed out of the garden because of their sin, even though they were originally saved. And, let’s examine their sin a bit more closely. God tells them that if they eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, they will die. But, who comes along and tells them otherwise? Who comes along and says, “You will not die?” Satan.

Satan was teaching once saved always saved in the Garden of Eden.

Adam and Eve bit on his lie…and they were expelled from the garden. The very first lie of Satan as recorded in the Bible is the lie of once saved always saved. That, if they sin, they will not die. You need to consider that very carefully.

2007-12-26 08:55:45 · answer #1 · answered by King James 33 1/3% 4 · 0 1

yes. It will be blotted out when you walk away but He is always happy to take you back into His arms. He loves it. Remember the story of the prodigal son? Read Hebrews 6:3-6 says that every time we walk away and sin again it is like crucifying Jesus all over again. Once saved always saved is a lie. If you use your free will to turn your back on God then He cant do anything. If you chose to stand alone on Judgment day you will be hit by His wrath

2007-12-26 08:48:49 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

since there is no such thing as the assurance in this life of being saved, it doesnt matter. If someone wants to be saved, they have to follow the rules, obey the commands, the precepts, the statutes, the church, do good avoid evil, do penance after one sins, confess your sins to the priest just as the bible tells us to do, with the empowering of them by Jesus to "forgive the sins of men". Getting to heaven is not a free ticket, we must DO what is expected and trust in the Lord to help us.

2007-12-26 10:28:15 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Sorry those 'once saved-always saved' believers. King Saul lost his salvation. Many people claim to be saved, but it isn't real. Salvation isn't a feeling. You know when your truely saved- the Holy Spirit lets you know (with out a doubt, that you are going to heaven). There will be NO question in your mind.

2007-12-26 08:54:29 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Once Saved-ALWAYS saved

Romans 8:35-39 (New International Version)

35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36As it is written:
"For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered."[a] 37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[b] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

2007-12-26 08:47:42 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Once you are saved, you are always saved. The Bible states the Lord will never leave you or forsake you. You may stray, but God is always with you, waiting for you to return.

2007-12-26 08:45:53 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

lol
unless you choose to become a son of perdition, which most people cannot! the answer is no, you cannot have your name erased from the book of life.
the real question is whether it is placed there, in the first place, or not. !

2007-12-26 08:48:41 · answer #7 · answered by Gomakawitnessofjesus 7 · 1 0

Your salvation is not based on anything you do, you did nothing to gain it. So, you can do nothing to lose what God has given you. If you are truly saved, indwelt with Spirit, born anew, chosen out for salvation, you are God's for eternity. Nothing you can do can change that.

2007-12-26 08:47:48 · answer #8 · answered by BrotherMichael 6 · 2 0

It is impossible to lose salvation (1 John 5:13). Those who teach "losing your salvation" are teaching a false thing, not to metion how contradictory it is to suggest that eternal life could ever "end".

2007-12-26 08:46:09 · answer #9 · answered by Chris 4 · 0 1

Once you are saved...you are always saved. You can drift away from Christ. You can turn away from Him....but you cannot become "unsaved"

2007-12-26 08:46:27 · answer #10 · answered by Dreamweaver back for more 6 · 2 0

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