My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Question

Matthew 27:46 (KJV)
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Considering the circumstances do you think this cry is understandable? Do you really think it means the Father, as described in Luke 15, always looking for his son, would turn his back on his son on the cross to fulfill a theological position that God can't look upon sin?

Maybe it just really, really sucked to be Jesus at that moment and he FELT abandoned? Is this unreasonable? Then we don't have to make the Father out to be such a Richard Cranium?

Conundrum - The second question is the most important part. Theologians seem to go to great pains to make the Father out to be an Ogre. Especially when it comes to grace and salvation. We are after all Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God! Thank you Jonathan Edwards.

Answer 1

of course he felt abandoned. He was a human being (too). Jesus was reciting Psalm 22: the full thing is worth reading. For example it goes on to say "For God has not spurned or disdained the misery of this poor wretch, did not turn away from me, but heard me when I cried out. I will offer praise in the great assembly; my vows I will fulfill before those who fear him."

Answer 2

I believe this can carry both meanings. The theological meaning that God not present when sin is, Jesus taking all the sins of the world, and therefore, being forsaken. Also, it can be seen as a moment when Jesus actually felt abandonment by His Father, and the physical pain He was enduring, after all, He was in human form.

Answer 3

What happened on the cross...

Jesus became sin...
2Corinthians 5:21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Isaiah 53:10 Yet it was the will of the LORD to bruise him; he has put him to grief; when he makes himself an offering for sin, he shall see his offspring, he shall prolong his days; the will of the LORD shall prosper in his hand;

Why... For the joy that was set before him...

Hebrews 12:2 looking to Jesus the pioneer and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.

The Father and Son had perfect unity and fellowship from before creation. On the cross however Christ became sin and was cast away from the perfect fellowship He had. The cry "My God My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" was a cry of grief of that separation. It was also a quote from Psalm 22 that was a prophecy of Christ's death that named details of how He would die.

Christ did not only "feel" abandoned, but He "was" abandoned, which was God's plan for Humanity from the beginning of time. The cup of God's wrath had to be poured out on someone. Either us for eternity or His eternal son.

Answer 4

Everything Jesus did was so that God's Word could be fulfilled.

Why did he enter Jerusalem on a colt of an donkey?
Why did he speak in parables?
Why did he submit to dying?
Why did he become the curse instead of us?

Matt 27:46, agrees with Jesus statements eariler:

"Not my will" "I have come to do the will of my Father"

At this time in his life, Jesus had never experience this level of pain and suffering.

Jehovah, his God and Father (as shown by "My God, My God") could not step in with any help for his only begotten Son, cause to do so would have proved Satan to be true.

Jesus had to remain faithful all the way to the end, to prove that it was possible to remain loyal to God, no matter what!

The Book of Hebrews states that Jesus was tested to the end. By remaining loyal Jesus 'earned' not only our salvation but his own.

If Jesus had proved unloyal, he would not and could not be resurrected to heaven, thus condemning himself and us to eternal death.

Matt. 27:46 is the first of three occations that prove Jesus is not God.

John 20:17 & Rev 3:2

While a man on earth
After his resurrection,
And after his ascention to Heaven

Jesus remained loyal to his God.

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Answer 5

The basic foundation of Christianity is the "Trinity," all being one and one being all. Without the Trinity, christianity falls. The exclamations on the cross and the questions asked the night before the Crucifixion make it clear that Jesus was not an element of that trinity and, therefore, was nothing more than a fraud. Probably why he only "revealed" himself after re-animating to those who had a vested interest in establishing and perpetuating his legend.

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Answer 6

By using such cross-references a vast amount of information may be obtained. One may ask why Jesus at the time just before his death said: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matt. 27:46) If the inquirer uses the cross-reference Bible, he will note a reference to Psalm 22:1, and by reading that he will note that this was foretold in the psalm; and Jesus, in fulfillment of prophecy, uttered those words at the time when it appeared outwardly that he was forsaken by God.

I wont answer the 2nd part of your Question its just plain silly.

Answer 7

There are a couple of different views on that. Personally, I think that there may be a problem in translation, otherwise the Hebrew would not have been spelled out. Some say that it actually should have been translated, "My God, my God, this is why you preserved me." Others say that he was simply referring his people to Psalm 22.

Isa 53:4 would be interesting to look at in reference to this verse.

Answer 8

Jesus took upon the sins of the world. God cannot look upon sin and had to turn his back on his Son. That's why Jesus prayed in the garden of Geth. Asking that this cup would depart of him. Not because he was not willing to go to the cross, but because his Father would have to turn his back on his Son.

Answer 9

i asked this same ? to my Dad and he told me that God DID forsake Jesus (in a way) for our sake BUT it was what Jesus wanted and he knew thfat ya know what i mean....