Does TRINIT have footings? ---- (Jews, Christians & Muslims invited for discussion)?

Question

CHRISTIAN Friends:
These questions having bona fide intentions – READ BEFORE YOU LEAP
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STATEMENT
Well, in comparison with Jewish & Muslim ideologies, Christians’ realities fail!

QUESTIONS
Q1- How everyone, good or bad, will be treated evenly & might be shown to Paradise?

Q-2 Why would God kill himself for His creation. Is not God powerful enough to decree instead? Are not the words of God good & strong enough to change what a God wants to change for humans?

Q3- If God lives & dies, is God a creation?

COMMENTARY
Christians are confused in so many sects already!

TRINITY COMPARISON with Judaism & Islam

Are not they aware of the Jewish religions concepts, especially when their half the book comprises of OLD TESTAMENT. Need not to mention the Muslim concepts, which are all ready in such a close proximity with the Jewish.

PS:
CHRISTIAN thoughts please (JEWISH & MUSLIM comments also welcome)!

No Offences Meant, No Offences Expected!
No Cut Paste pls!

In A2 you ACCEPT Jesus is a CREATION of God

Holy Koran says something that which cannot be found in the Books of Jews

There are UNBELIEVERS
who say, ‘God is the Messiah, Mary’s son.’
For the Messiah said,
‘Children of Israel,
serve God, MY Lord and
YOUR Lord, Verily
whoso associates
with God anything,
God shall prohibit him
entrance to Paradise,
and his refuge shall be
the Fire; and wrongdoers
shall have no helpers.’

They are UNBELIEVERS
who say, ‘God is the THIRD of THREE.’
no god is there BUT ONE GOD.
If they refrain not from what they say, there shall afflict those of them that disbelieve
a painful chastisement.
Will they NOT TURN TO GOD and pray His FORGIVENESS?
God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.

The Messiah, son of Mary, WAS ONLY
A MESSENGER; Messenger before him
passed away; his mother was a just
woman;
they both ate food. Behold, how We make clear
the signs to them; then behold, how they
perverted are!
XXX:72~75 TheTable

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Dear HASSE

As a rule of thumb, God does not sacrifice - God ACCEPTS SACRAFICES.

When someone from any Abrahamic faith 'FASTS for a Day,’ it is the MAN who sacrifice for the LOVE of GOD.
My Friend, it is NOT GOD WHO KEEPS FAST to sacrifice for men!

Everything in Judaism & Islam is open, why do you have mysteries in your religion. Do has always spoken understandable words to common man that is way so many have converted to Abrahamic Faiths.

What is that Psalm?
God Love common men, that is why He has created so many of them.

Thank you for you time & input
God Bless You!

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Graven Images won't take MILLER anywher either!

Merry Xmas

Answer 1

No offence taken. These are perfectly reasonable questions.
Q1) Apparently according to the Qoran and certainly in the NT, we were all known to God before the Creation, (Ephesians1v4). In his even-handedness and wisdom he knew which of us would want to follow him and made a way for us to do so through Jesus Christ and so to enter the Garden of Eden with him. (Paradise is a Persian word which means 'the garden'.)
Q2) God did not kill himself. We his creatures saw him, hated him and killed him. It is amazing that our species still exists after that crime. True, God could make a command forcing everyone to follow him right now. But he does not want zombies or robots to follow him, he looks only for those of us who really want to follow him. Accordingly, individual freedom sits right at the heart of the gospel and we Christians have no authority from God to force anyone, even to hear the gospel, unless they really want to hear it.
Q3) God became incarnate and took human form in Jesus. We his creatures killed him in his human form, but we could not kill God who had taken that form. To demonstrate this truth, he did not remain dead but appeared again in human form, but not exactly the same as before. His new resurrected body is immortal, but it still bears the marks of the tortures and crucifixion he suffered at our hands.

Comment. Everyone will be judged by Jesus Christ and we will see the wounds he received at the hands of our kind. Have we added to those injuries in our lives?

So, if the Qoran is correctly quoted above, the Apostles John and Paul are unbelievers and they will not be in the Qoranic garden. Given the excellence of the company outside the Qoranic garden, I would be highly honoured to be placed outside it. Indeed I would not want to be in the Qoranic garden or with anyone who did not believe in the divinity of Isho`a Meshikha.

Answer 2

Ok,
Q1 Paradise, bible says righteous and un-righteous will be resurrected, some will live through Armageddon. they will be treated with love, respect. Because it is Gods people that resemble his qualities, love justice power, mercy, will teach those in paradise Gods requirements.

Q2 Jesus is God's son. More correctly, Gods first creation.
Proverbs 8:20 explains Jesus creation ( his beginning). He is God-like, and very powerful, but he is not God Almighty.

Q3. Same as Q2. There is no trinity. God YHWH is only one God.

Yes Muslim and Jewish are somewhat similar they do share old scripture teachings as from Moses. However Muslim or Islam religion like the Jewish failed to accept prophercy and has rejected what God expected them to accept which is a ransom sacerfice.

Answer 3

1. According to the Scriptures, there is none "good" in the flesh. All are depraved, dead in sin, and worthy of eternal punishment for that sin. God chooses out some for salvation, not based on their actions or works, but solely through His grace, mercy and love.

2. God's nature is not merely love, it is also holiness and righteousness. In His righteousness, sin must be dealt with, it cannot simply be wiped away. The Old Testament shows that sin brought death, that is the basis behind the sacrificial system. When someone sins, an innocent animal dies. The wages of sin is death. God cannot go against one of His character traits. So, for Him to simply "speak" away sin, would be contradicting His righteous character and would not satisfy His righteousness.
3. Jesus, in human form, did die. But His Spirit and soul lived on, as we do also. Jesus, the second member of the Godhead did not cease to exist, He is eternal, but Jesus, the flesh and blood human did. He had fulfilled his purpose, that is, being the innocent lamb, the spotless lamb, who died for the sins of His people. God's wrath was poured out on Him and God's righteousness was satisfied.

The concept of the trinity is all throughout the Old Testament. God the Father was always Spirit, He never stepped foot on the earth nor left His throne. When you see God on the earth, whether it be in the garden, as "the angel of the Lord", or as a burning bush, it is the pre-incarnate Christ. There is mention of people being indwelt with the Holy Spirit or Spirit of God throughout the O.T., David being one. So you have Father, Son and Holy Spirit in the O.T.

Not confused at all.

Answer 4

TRINITY: According to the Athanasian Creed:

"The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God."

In this Holy Trinity: "The three Persons are CO-EQUAL and CO-ETERNAL: all alike are UNCREATED and OMNIPOTENT." (The Catholic Encyclopedia)

Thus the Trinity is considered to be: (One God in three Persons."

There is only one verse in the whole of Holy Scripture called the Bible which unequivocally supports this Christian dogma, and that is:

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one. " The first Epistle of John 5:7

Dr C.I, Scofield, D.D. backed by eight other D.D.'s in a footnote to this verse opine:

"IT IS GENERALLY AGREED THAT THIS VERSE HAS NO MANUSCRIPT AUTHORITY AND HAS BEEN INSERTED."

The fundamentalist Christians still retain this fabrication whereas, in all the modern translations including the Revised Standard Version (RSV) this pious fraud has been unceremoniously expunged, thus confirming this Qur'anic refutation:

"They do blaspheme who say: God is one of three In a Trinity: for there is no God except one God. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them." Holy Qur'an 5:76.

Thank God! The Christians are willy-nilly discovering pagan forgeries in their "word of God", but they are still dragging their feet.

Answer 5

Trinity is a heathen doctrine, and has no place in true belief. Salvation is offered like a marriage contract; Take YHVH's name, and follow His rules, and you become His "bride" and will be saved in the end. Why do you think that all must be saved in the end? Scripture does not teach that. Since the law was broken, there must be provision for fixing things. Transgression causes death. There must be shedding of blood for my sin. One greater than I must die for me, or I must die. That is why YAHOSHUA offered to die, before the world was created. (His name means YHVH is salvation). It stretches the imagination, that one so great can be so loving, and giving. We said it is good news, not that it is easy to understand. It is called the mystery of "godliness", How the Messiah can be in you the hope of glory.

Answer 6

Trinity is rubbish. There is not even a single verse that pertains to Trinity in the Bible. The word Trinity does not exist in the Bible!

But it does exist in the Quran. It tells you not to worship the trinity.

Cheers

Answer 7

No true Christians believe in the trinity.
The Bible teaches that God is ONE, not three in one.

Answer 8

Fear of the cross sends people apparently insane.
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