Christians ?

Question

Christians, i read somewhere that true christians do not celebrate christmas because
'You're assuming that only non-Christians would ignore Christmas.

I love G-d, and KNOW that Jesus (Yeshua) came to save and did, but i don't celebrate Christmas (a.k.a. winter solstice).

Christmas is an ancient pagan heathen holiday, that true followers of Christ should NEVER observe.'

'* 6 hours ago'

what are your thoughts on this?

froggs- notice the quotes. i did not say this, i copied and pasted from another users answer.

Answer 1

Christmas is an annual holiday that celebrates the birth of Jesus. It refers both to the day celebrating the birth, as well as to the season which that day inaugurates, which concludes with the Feast of the Epiphany. The date of the celebration is traditional, and is not considered to be his actual date of birth. Christmas festivities often combine the commemoration of Jesus' birth with various cultural customs, many of which have been influenced by earlier winter festivals. Although a Christian holiday, it is also observed as a cultural holiday by many non-Christians.

The historic record of the birth of Christ can be found in Matthew 1:18-25 and Luke 2:1-20.

Unlike any other baby, the one born that night in Bethlehem was unique in all of history. He was not created by a human father and mother. He had a heavenly pre-existence (John 1:1-3, 14). He is God, the Son—Creator of the universe (Philippians 2:5-11). This is why Christmas is called the incarnation, a word which means “in the flesh.” In the birth of Jesus, the eternal, all-powerful and all-knowing Creator came to earth in the flesh.

I do celebrate Christmas and I do not think you have the right to judge the holiday or Saints, by which it was created, by calling it an 'ancient pagan heathen holiday'. Of course any Christian has the right to choose whether or not they want to celebrate the holiday, though there is nothing evil or sinister behind Christmas or how it originated. Yes there are some people who celebrate this holiday and time of year not in a Christian manor. Well, then I guess they're not really celebrating Christmas.

I guess in the end it comes down to whether or not you 'believe' if you are going to be saved. But I think if you really are a Christian you would take the time to celebrate Christmas and worship Christ in the way you know it's meant to be.

...Christmas is not a.k.a (winter solstice)...

Answer 2

My mom puts on such an awesome Christmas that even Jewish people come over to the house to receive presents, and we also say to them happy Hanukkah.

In any case I am thrilled that the world celebrates the birthday of the Messiah, and that this is the most joyous time of year for everybody when we share delicious food/cusine and fellowship, that everyone can partisipate in and enjoy. The world is blessed by Christmas.

Without Christmas we would not have our modern calendar that is what the date is all about, and it is because of Jesus that we have Christmas.

You can turn anything into a negative, but you have to look at the origins of things; unfortunately you are believeing in false origins which are not the true origins. For example a Jewish man was at the house enjoying our fellowship tonight and he asked when the tradition of giving presents began, and it is true that there was a man in a northern European country a long long time ago who made toys and gave them to all the children in the town from time to time. But the true origin of this is obviously the fact that the wise men brought gifts to Jesus, and it is customary to bring gifts when a baby is born, etc...

Understandably from Satan's perspective it is a pagan holliday.

Have a merry Christmas and a happy New Year and a Joyous Kwanza.

Answer 3

I think a commemoration of the Birth of Christ makes sense in the context of a year long church calendar. What is troubling about Christmas as it is currently celebrated in the U.S. is that it is becoming largely void of religious significance. I can't help but think of Jesus throwing out the money changers near the temple.

I'm not particularly troubled that the day corresponds to an ancient pagan holiday. Doing so has succeeded largely in taking a pagan holiday and at least bring some Christian angle to it. It's very important that Christmas was never a pagan holiday - but rather the day selected for Christmas in non eastern orthodox Christianity shares the same day.

Answer 4

the real reason behind christmas being celebrated on december 25th is because when the catholic church was evangalizing europe, pagans had a winter solstice holiday not as a religious thing but as a cultural thing. dec 25th marks the day supposedly when the days start becoming longer and the weather starts becoming warmer. thus the unknown birthday of christ was put on this day as a symbol. nothing more. so, no it is not a "ancient pagan heathen holiday"

Answer 5

...and Christianity is built on Judaism, which was one of a group of monotheistic religions/mystic cults that evolved among the nomadic peoples that lived in the region that is now the middle east. Every religion is built on the bones of a preceding system. I am a Christian and even if we have the day a bit wrong, I think that the Lord is glad that we celebrate not only his resurrection, but his birth as well. True Christians praise the Lord and celebrate Him every chance that they have, and all the good works done in the name of Christ during the Christmas season are things that make the Lord glad.

Answer 6

I agree that this holiday derived from a pagan religion and that Santa Claus (aka. St. Nicholas) came out of the 4th Century but I don't think this will stop people even Christians from putting in Christmas decorations or a Christmas tree in their homes.

Answer 7

I can appreciate your right to choose what you feel is wrong to celebrate and I appreciate the description you provide us here as to what Christmas, aka - winter solstice means to you. Can you now appreciate the equal right that others have to make the choice to believe anything contrary to your beliefs? I mean no disrespect to you in asking that question, I just don't feel that any human has the right to make that sort of judgment call for another human, that a "true follower of Christ should NEVER observe." If it is wrong for you then you should NEVER do it, no matter what it is. But I feel that Christians should have a personal relationship with God and should be the individuals He created us to be as we follow His leadership in our lives. Just as not all of those He calls are called to preach or teach or to do all the same things in service to Him, not all are called to be convicted against everything the same way. It is as individual and personal as DNA. Stay true to your convictions and beliefs and I will stay true to mine, and others will stay true to theirs, etc., etc., etc.. Thank you for allowing others to know your strong conviction about this though. It is through this sort of knowledge that we must consider in our own individual hearts and minds where our own convictions lie. But as Christians we should always remember that by following God's will in our life, we will not be looking to do that which He has led us not to do.

Answer 8

The Christman that I celebrate is about the birth of Christ. What other pagan thing that someone else celebrates on Christmas is there problem. I celebrate Christ.

Answer 9

The name "Christmas" first appeared around 450 C.E. when Pope Julius decreed that all Catholics must celebrate the birthday of Christ at the same time that the heathen were celebrating the pagan Saturnalia feast. It was designated as "Christe-masse", or Christ's mass.

Sadly, there are precious few true Christians who know that the origin of the "Christmas tree" is from Babylon mystery religion, many believe the tree originated among Christians in Europe. But there are even more precious few Christians who know better and who speak out to warn others against the dangers of sentimental agreements with paganism. The decorated tree represents Tammuz (which also means a sprout) hasatan's counterfeit of "The Branch". (Hebrew: NETZER; a shoot; or a sprout) The Mashiyach was prophetically called "The Root out of dry ground" Isaiah 11:1; 53:2; Jeremiah 23:5; Zechariah 6:12 "Behold the man whose name is The Branch". Ancient coins have been found picturing a tree stump which represented dead Nimrod and a small tree growing nearby which represented Tammuz. The Egyptians used the palm tree; the Romans a pine tree. The "Xmass tree" as worshipped by idolatrous Israelites is described in Jeremiah 10. Mistletoe and holly figured prominently in the early Anglo-Saxon and Druidic tree worship.



Jeremiah 10:1-5 "Hear ye the word which YHWH speaks to you, O house of Israel: Thus says YHWH, learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cuts a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good."



Clearly Jeremiah records a vivid depiction of a tree that is cut down from the forest, erected and decorated for a religious celebration. Ezekiel shows how YHWH's people sorely grieved Him by adopting the "imagery" of Tammuz which now has become the decorated Christmas tree.



Ezekiel 8:11-14 "Then said He unto me, Son of man, have you seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? For they say, "YHWH does not see us; YHWH has forsaken the earth." He said also unto me, turn yet again, and you shall see greater abominations that they do. Then He brought me to the door of the gate of YHWH'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz."



Part of Tammuz worship was to place golden balls on the tree which were representative of the testicles of Tammuz, as he was also considered a god of sex. The women were weeping because his prostitution services were no longer available. The whole hearted believer will not contribute to the perpetuation of Christmas by observing it in any manner; he or she will withdraw in horror from all pagan-born celebrations revered by a world that attempted to slay the infant Messiah with Herod's sword. The blood of baby boys born in Bethlehem cries out against the diabolical hatred toward the infant Saviour whom the world hated. The Mashiyach was crucified by those how had a diabolical hatred for the Way of Righteousness. The world is now racing towards the fulfillment of Revelations 11:10 when YHWH's two witnesses shall be slain and "they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them and make merry and shall send gifts to one another."



Dear friends, heed the words of Apostle Paul, a man of TRUTH!

Ephesians 5:11 "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them."

The birth of "Jesus" is remembered each year but the Name of Yeshua Mashiyach, the Kingdom of Elohim and His Righteous Torah are a contemptuous infamy for the lukewarm religious. The Torah reminds us:



Exodus 23:2 "You shall not follow a multitude to do evil"



Yeshua Mashiyach said:

Luke 16:15 "That which is highly esteemed among men is abominable in the sight of Elohim"

Apostle Paul writes:

Romans 12:2 "Be ye not conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may know what is that good and acceptable and wholehearted will of Elohim."

Please pass this message along to your family, friends whether they be Christian, Jewish, Believers or non-Believers, we have an obligation to love each other and warn each other. Delving into pagan rituals is NOT a light matter, regardless of one's "intentions"!

Answer 10

All that matters is that you know who you are in Christ Jesus. And once you know that then you need the Holy Spirit to guide you and help you.

Love the Lord your God with all your heart with all your mind and with all your strength and love your neighbor as yourself.

These holidays were pagan at one time. but wheres your heart toward these people that observe them?