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2007-12-25 15:02:42 · 15 answers · asked by Ford Goddess 6 in Cars & Transportation ➔ Car Makes ➔ Ford
Toyota recently in my area has been trying to advertise to the professional driver however the ad campaign either ended or got pulled real quick as it was here one day gone the next.
Toyota is putting jobs in America, but they are doing it in right to work states like Mississippi where they pay over $20/hour less than the American car companies do per worker (if benefits are counted as well as wage differences)
The 6.0 let a sour taste in some mouths and the fuel economy on the 6.4s are doing it right now. However fuel economy on the diesel I think is gonna be a sore spot because of emissions.
Toyota may get a few people to buy, but it's gonna need a automatic.. no stick will do, also they will have to overly back the trucks like the americans are doing.... however most people will go with brands they trust first. And it will take about 2 generations to get their foot in the door hard... But Toyota as of late has been hit hard with shoddy car complaints (unlike 15 years ago)
That and in my area..5,000 miles a month isn't nothing on one of these trucks.... but the Toyota dealer network isn't as big as the Ford one is in my area and basically when you are broken down, Toyota sometimes is a question of how long for the part.
So personally, Work trucks are still Ford and Chevy at the moment... Because unless Toyota builds a real work edition of their truck, they won't be a player like the big 3 still are.
2007-12-25 15:58:19 · answer #1 · answered by gearbox 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Toyota has a long way to go in capturing a lion-share of the US truck market.
One big reason is price. A nicely equiped F-150 vs. Tundra, price wise the Tundra leaves a lot of people out of it's price range.
Also, both Ford, GM and Dodge offer more variants on the truck models than Toyota, so individuals and companies will have more of a choice of the truck they want if they go domestic.
But technology and build quality wise, Toyota may have a significant edge on Ford.
2007-12-25 23:15:49 · answer #2 · answered by Al A 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It'll be a long time before they do, but, put down your Ford trucker hat and think for a minute...
Ford is in debt. BADLY. They and GM have axed jobs here in the US and moved a lot of their operations to Mexico and Canada. Ford's trucks are good, even if their cars suck.
Toyota and Nissan are turning profits, and added as many jobs to hardworking Americans as Ford and GM lost a few years ago. They make most of their US market trucks trucks here in the US now.
People here in the US are going to be leaning toward Ford and Chevy and GM for a long time but at the same time, Toyota is well-known for reliability; the 22R engines they used to put in their pickups run forever and they built a reputation around those, and also the reliability of the Camry and Corolla (my parents' winter beater, a '91 dented-up Corolla with 300k + miles, has fewer problems than their three-year-old Town Car)... so I think that yes. They will, in time... they just need to get more of them out there and get people to drop their preconceptions about "Japanese" trucks (all these trucks are designed and built in the US by Americans nowadays, anyway). 600 ft/lb or torque is 600 ft/lb of torque, no matter what name is on the valve cover.
If you go anywhere else in the world, Toyota trucks are where it's at... pretty much all of Southeast Asia, Australia, the Middle East and Africa, and increasingly more of Europe and Russia run on the backs of Toyotas and Nissans.
2007-12-25 23:33:05 · answer #3 · answered by Mysterious Racer P 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
well, here's what i think... they have the money to try... they have done pretty well when looking at Ranger Vs. Tacoma.
so far IMO the tundra has a long way to go before the F-150 needs to worry. sure its a nice truck, i would drive one... but for the money, i could buy a ford and load it up with all my favorite aftermarket stuff, make more power, climb bigger obstacles, forge deeper rivers... you get the point... and all for less than a tundra. when Toyota trucks are as cheap as Toyota cars ill start looking closer, but i wonder how much it will effect quality by the time they pinch all those pennies out.
2007-12-26 12:21:58 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Toyota will not enter a market unless they believe that they can dominate it. The truck market is a cash cow for Ford, and Toyota sees that. They want that share of the market. Texas is our biggest selling state for trucks and that is where Toyota is building their plant.
Most likely, over a period of time, Toyota will either be successful or they will abandon the project.
2007-12-26 10:52:49 · answer #5 · answered by Fordman 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Tundra is a huge black mark on Toyota's previously great record. The Camry is the same thing for their cars. Theyre trying to ride on their good name while making sub-par cars.
I really hope theyre successful in getting people to buy Tundras instead of F 150's--then people will quickly see that Toyota doesnt care about quality anymore while Ford is one of few companies putting reliability first again.
Toyota's only chance to surpass Ford in trucks is to continue what theyre doing. They lie about the quality, hide their problems by refusing repairs and refusing to do needed recalls until forced, then they just coast on their name. If we're stupid enough to keep allowing this then the people who buy them will get what they deserve.
Toyota still makes great small cars, and the FJ is a huge step for off-road capable suvs, but theyre trying to reach out to more markets than they can afford to do and are neglecting their customers to do so.
2007-12-26 09:47:18 · answer #6 · answered by Showtunes 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Right now, the big truck market is not the place for any manufacture to invest tooling money in. The market is stagnant.
As for Ford vs Toyota, Toyota will not operate on the margin that Ford will. They (Toyota) will continue to build as cheaply as possible and count on advertising hype to carry an inferior model to the public.
2007-12-26 08:31:29 · answer #7 · answered by Team E 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Even I'm a Ford/Mercury fan, I know that is matter of time that Toyota will take the place of Ford GM and Dodge. The reasons are the same as usual in all Japanese vehicles.
2007-12-26 10:50:20 · answer #8 · answered by Raul R 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Toyota ONLY has better safety, reliability, and nearly zero factory recalls compaired with Ford trucks. But that is about it. As much as I hate Fords, I believe Ford makes a better truck, and should stick to just making trucks period. However, my friend's new Toyota Tundra with the biefiest engine and towing capacity has put my other friend's new diesel Ford pick up to shame.
2007-12-26 00:24:32 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
Toyotas are great trucks but they cost wayyy too much. I have gotten 300K out a Dodge Dakota with diligent oil changes so really any trucks can last a long time. Don't get me wrong I like Toyos, but would never pay for one unless it was a great deal. (Which they don't seem willing to give) 25K for a Taco is ridiculous.
2007-12-26 00:17:02 · answer #10 · answered by popeyethesadist 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋