Everyone keeps saying Jesus is god, but if that's true then who is sitting at the right hand of the throne in heaven? He was praying to god before he was killed, so was he really just talking to himself? He asked god if he could pass on this but only if it was god's will, so was he having some sort of inner debate? I believe in the bible but this whole trinity thing makes no sense and came out like some generations after his death by the Catholic church, so if there is a trinity why didn't he mention it? And if he did die for 3 days (if he was god) did that mean there was anarchy in heaven? I mean wouldn't the devil kinda capitalize on this? Serious answers, this is honestly confusing. Obviously that means that god can't get everyone to like him because a mob wanted him dead and that doesn't seem very promising. Someone really needs to straighten this out.
2007-12-25
04:24:17
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Hey Kazoo that weblink just says people after Jesus who weren't prophets just some guys that thought they knew a lot came up with the holy trinity thing. And that page also they are three seperate beings that are omnipotent....that's self defeating plz try again.
2007-12-25
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So what I got is he was the first creation from God. That he is a seperate being. He might loved by god and might have been raised as an equal but he was created secondly. So God made him, Jesus didn't make god. God it. Now seriuosly is that show hard? You can label it one being but it sounds pretty much like you got two different beings.
2007-12-25
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Right. Theologically it is a real challenge. The Savior was not created, but begotten. He thus is a clone of YHVH (to use modern concepts and terminology). The plan was set up before anything was created. (The Savior created everything that was created) In order to cope with sin, which causes death, and be able to die for mankind, ( it would seem easier to hit the delete button, but YHVH often doesn't do things the easy way, but rather the best way.) Thus there had to be two, one to die and the other to hold things together. I visualize the tree of life. I am told the roots grow together under ground, and the branches and leaves grow together in the air. Thus it is one tree, but looking at the two trunks, one on each side of the river of life, it looks like two trees. There is no Trinity (that is a heathen concept which has no place in true worship) YHVH is a spirit, and the Holy Spirit is referred to as the spirit of YHVH and/or the Spirit of the Messiah. (There are only two thrones in Heaven). To accommodate the prophecy of three days and three nights, the Messiah rose about sundown on the Seventh day. Thus He died about sundown on the4th day (Wednesday) at the time the passover lamb was being killed, before the Feast Sabbath, not the weekly Sabbath. It isn't easy, but all the pieces should fit without bending any for the Almighty designed this puzzle!
2007-12-25 06:17:37
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answered by hasse_john 7
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Jesus was God made flesh. It is called a divine mystery. It is something that we as humans cannot comprehend, but must believe it is true. Jesus himself asked the Jews what Psalm 110:1 meant, none dared to answer, nor did he. There was no inner debate, "My god my god why have thout foresaken me" is known as the prayer of the innocent man, it is actually a quotation from pslams Psalm 22:1. The Catholic church backs its teachings from the Bible. The trinity is simply the father, the son, and the holy sprit all of which are from God. Muslims say same thing with Bismillah, al-rahman, and raheem. They say God three times, all three words mean God. Koran says that the sprit of God went into Jesus [kalim-utallah], [rasu-allah], [ruhun-tuallah]. [issa bin mariam al messih] [word, prophet, sprit, messiah], and that the word of God came through Jesus; hence God becoming flesh, even says he was sinless, and loved by God so much that God raised him to himself, and would judge within the matters together where they dispute. The problem with Islam is that the Koran has been changed. They have this thing called nasech well mansouch, which deleted previous passages concering peace and Christians as good people, and accepted all the bad terrible passages. There is an answer to all your questions, just too much detail. Take a class on theology to learn.
2007-12-25 04:41:17
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answered by robot chicken 1
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It is not robbery to call the Son of God, God. Yet, he is not God the Father.
God gave his Son his Holy Spirit without measure. And the Son who does only the will of his Father has the fullness of God in him.
So the Son does sit at the right hand of the Father. And the Son is God, being filled completely with the Spirit of his Father. Yet, the Son is not the Father as some would have you believe.
Yet, it is written that there will come a day when the Son offers up the kingdom unto the Father that the Son will relinquish the authority of the Godhead, for there can be only one God. 1 Cor. 15:24-28
Yet, should the Son be called God? Certainly. For even the Father refers to the Son as God in Heb. 1. If the Father refers to his Son as God, who are we to not do the same.
2007-12-25 04:32:57
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answered by heiscomingintheclouds 5
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Jesus was the first of God's creations, that is why he was called the only begotten one. Because he made all the other things. Including Satan. I think Satan was his first creation.
So he felt the three of them should be equal as God's.
So it is a demon inspired teaching to put Satan up there with the Almighty and Jesus.
Jesus was in heaven for eaons of time with trillions and trillions of other spirit persons. Satan was very powerful, a third of these spirit persons followed him to earth.
He was given the earth to act as covering cherub or rule over the earth. The bible even calls him the ruler of the world.
But he became wicked, that is what happens sometimes when someone is given free will.
Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist, 18 and he is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that he might become the one who is first in all things; 19 because [God] saw good for all fullness to dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile again to himself all [other] things by making peace through the blood [he shed] on the torture stake, no matter whether they are the things upon the earth or the things in the heavens.
Revelation 3:14 “And to the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ce´a write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God,
2007-12-25 04:35:45
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answered by Anonymous
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You are talking about the nature of God. Many scholarly people have debated and have tried to grasp that nature, it just defies man's ability to wrap the mind about.
So the Bible says who Jesus is sitting next to: The Father. I would recommend you reading Daniel 7 to see that the 'Ancient of Days' and the 'one like the son of man' are recorded there in the Old Testament. The description of the 'one like the son of man' matches the one who receives power, glory, authority, etc. as to what Jesus receives.
God has been talking about Jesus throughout the Old Testament, it just takes a person with the understanding that the Holy Spirit brings to grasp it.
2007-12-25 04:33:26
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answered by Christian Sinner 7
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The Trinity is in the Bible...
when Jesus was baptized the Father opened up the sky and said " This is my Son with whom I am well pleased, listen to Him." And the Holy Spriit came to believers in Acts Chapter 2.
Jesus prayed to the Father when He prayed.
We are sinners, all of us, and many reject God's message. That is why they did not believe who he was (the mob) and had him crucified.
The Trinity is God in three persons - in complete agreement.
2007-12-25 04:36:58
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answered by Anonymous
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2016-10-02 08:14:39
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answered by mccowen 4
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Jesus is not God. Jesus is sitting next to the Father. You're right, it doesn't make sense. There is no mention of the trinity in the bible. It was made up by the Catholic church.
2007-12-25 04:33:02
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answered by watsgoingon 4
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Jesus sits at the right hand of The Father.
Bless You.
2007-12-25 04:36:09
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answered by Brilliant 1forHIM 5
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i like the way you think.Jehovah is Jesus's father and yes Jesus is sitting at the right hand of God.you have a hard time with the trinity because it is a false doctorine.God is father,Jesus is son.2 seperate beings.
2007-12-25 04:32:16
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answered by Anonymous
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