is it wrong to diss fellowship a wrong doer in the cherch?

Question

if you didnt what message would you be sending to the rest of the flock

one who has commited gross sin
the bible says not to even say a word of greating to them or you will share in their sins

Answer 1

What? Do you mean church? What the heck is a cherch???

Answer 2

As an example, there was this guy who met this girl in the congregation. she was a real run around but no one bothered to disfellowship her. Because she was there everyone assumed she was a good girl.
So this single guy asked her out and they or he fell in love and they rush to get married. Only to find out she was in a relationship with several other guys and still married to her last husband or last two husbands.
As a result of the elders not disfelloshipping her he lost his house. sold it to buy her a car. She wanted him to move away. Sure she did before he found out about her.
It was a great big mess and he was so mad. Because he felt if it was someone in the congregation she was a good person. So when bad people are not disfellowshipped how is the rest of us to know who we can trust?
How would we be any different than these mega churches where everyone comes in off the street and to marry one of them you may be getting a serial killer or a prevert or a wife beater. Or some clepto meniack or gambler or adultress women. We depend on them to help us.

Answer 3

Every body seems to be stuck on the punishment ,not the message that you want to protect the flock by removing unrepentant members.
Disfellowshiping is for those doing wrong who do not want to repent .
Should you allow a regular fornicator to stay in your church at the risk of that person trying there evil ways on other members ?
Disfellowshiping is to protect the flock and to help that person realize the seriousness of the unrepentant heart.
I am disfellowshiped apx 25 years , i will not lie , it has been hard but regardless i hold no grudges and i am looking forward to my reinstatement.
May i also add when i am reinstated knowing how hard it is i will treat my reinstatement as something more valuable than gold.

Answer 4

The Bible commands Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”—1 Corinthians 5:11

1 Corinthians 5:13- "...remove the wicked man from among yourselves."

Of course, if the disfellowshipped person repented and wanted to return to the congregation, there should be an arrangement for that. God is a loving God, and like a loving father disciplining his children, wants them to learn from their mistakes.

Hebrews 12:11- "True, no discipline seems for the present to be joyous, but grievous; yet afterward to those who have been trained by it it yields peaceable fruit, namely, righteousness"

Answer 5

You can find exactly what it says about this in the bible. Mathew 18:5 "If your brother sins against you,[b] go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.'[c] 17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

I know there is something else in there about it I just can't remember were at the moment.

Answer 6

I think to dis-fellowship someone is cruel, I think that it is best to follow the teachings of Christ (and other great Teachers)and to forgive and forget. What right do we (as human beings) have to judge another.
Just because someone is exhibiting "undesirable behavior" does not give another person the right to be mean. That would be the the doctrine of an eye for and eye and Christ taught to turn the other cheek.

Answer 7

One message to send to the flock would be "use spell check and take English 101".

Answer 8

We were ALL lovingly and perfectly created by our Father with PERFECT qualities which WE have chosen to utilize inconsistently with the original purpose of those qualities.

The consequences of INCORRECTLY applying the principles governing our Being are inescapable, but correctable. When the correct perception IS CORRECTLY APPLIED, the resultant “answers” (if recognized as such) enables us to declare the truth of that experience to ourselves. The consequences of CORRECTLY applying the principles governing our Being are ALSO inescapable, to our eternal good.

This is the operative principle behind "Ye shall reap what you sow".

Having the ability to question and explore the spiritual, scientific principles of Creation and come to our OWN correct OR incorrect conclusions does not detract from its perfection (or YOURS) one whit! Otherwise, you would not know what electricity ABSOLUTELY and TRULY does FOR you when you utilize it correctly. Or you wouldn’t know what electricity ABSOLUTELY and TRULY does TO you when operated incorrectly, either.

That's why 2 + 2 = 4.

As a matter of Truth, the ONLY way you'd know if you have made a mistake is BECAUSE the principles of Life operate perfectly, without the slightest deviation, variation, or attenuation at ANY time or in ANY place for ANYBODY!
2+2 will NEVER, EVER equal anything but 4.

We may recognize that we have MADE A MISTAKE, yes. However, we learn to manifest 4 by adding 2 plus 2, and by recognizing that 4 is the correct solution in EVERY instance.

All the principles of Life operate in this manner.

No sooner than we correct the mistaken perception inside ourselves, and apply the solution....that the benefit leads to further experience to correctly apply the principles that YOU KNOW are now a permanent part of you. That's a good thing!!

The gift in BEING FREE to make mistakes (in other words, to be wrong) is precisely so that you can LEARN HOW TO CORRECT THEM....not in being penalized (hell) for making mistakes.

I'd say that's a pretty good way to learn about the wonder of your Self and especially about the Giver of such a gift as the capability TO MAKE MISTAKES!!

Through such a gift, you could even come to realize how serious our Creator is to have us freely discover the Absolute Truth about ourselves, FOR ourselves......

As is our Father’s loving intent for all the Beings He created…..

As PERFECT BEINGS, we cannot escape conformance to the principles of our own Being, any more than we can escape the principles of mathematics to produce correct answers. However, we can learn to operate (live) in conformance to those principles to produce correct answers and productive lives.

Unlike the members of some "flocks", our Heavenly Father is not in the slightest bit threatened by the mistakes we make in life. He understands that some of us take longer than others learning how to get the lessons right.

.....and Who still loves us, no matter how long it takes.

If you really want to send a message to the flock, let it be your own excellent, loving example helping another Brother or Sister learn, for themselves, how to do the "math" of living correctly.

Caution: You can only "show" them if you know. You are NOT responsible to "do the math" of living for your Brother or Sister. That's the task our Father has placed before EACH OF US to solve OURSELVES. Another may show or help point the way, but WE must do the "math" ourselves!

Fortunately, our Father placed the ability to do it all perfectly inside of us when He created us.

We just need to learn how for ourselves.....

Orin

Answer 9

If a church has a certain set of rules which you have to agree to abide by those rules to join. You know ahead of time the rules and that if you break those rules you will be disfellowshipped. Then you have no complaint against anyone if you get disfellowhsipped.
If you join the boy scots and you know you have to do certain things to stay in there but you join anyway and fail to do those things and get kicked out you have no one to blame but yourself. You knew the rules and yet you didn't abide by them.
If you don't think you can abide by the rules of a certain organization then don't join. but joining and then gripeing because they did what they said they would do seems foolish.

Answer 10

First, keep in mind that everyone in the church is a wrongdoer. If we weren't, we would have no need for the salvation that is ours through Christ's sacrifice.

That said, Christ has commanded us to confront our brothers and sisters who persist in sin. (Matthew 18.15-17). And he is clear: an unrepentent sinner who fails to be persuaded by his peers and by the admonition of the whole church is to be cast out among the pagans and tax collectors.

The key point, though, is the idea that WE (those who confront wrongdoers) are obligated to help our brother see the error of his ways. That is best done through mutual confession and through humility, not through finger-wagging and gossiping among the church community. If that occurs, then you've got your own sins of which to repent.

Answer 11

If I were you I would learn the procedure in your church for fellow wrong doer's. I imagine each church or religion has their own way of dealing with problems. In my church we follow the Bible's directions in this area. For example if a person were stealing from the offering plate as it went around and I caught him I would go to him privately and tell him what he is doing is wrong. I would need scripture to back me up. If he still didn't listen then I would tell a couple of church elders to come with me while we talked to him. If he still didn't listen and turn from his wicked ways, then the issue would be turned over to the Pastor for him to deal with. What is considered wrong doing in one church may not be wrong to another,so make sure this is considered wrong by your church. Merry Christmas!