Why does israel brush off international concerns?

Question

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071224/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_cluster_bombs;_ylt=AoK9yGcLu4LFRCG3BpEfkjmbOrgF

israel's use of cluster bombs in the Lebanon war has been branded a war crime.

Blanket Immunity from War Crimes
When Criticism of Cluster Bombs is "Anti-Semitic"
http://www.counterpunch.org/heller09022006.html
The U.N. humanitarian chief Jan Egeland revealed this week that of the estimated 100,000 unexploded cluster bombs lying in Lebanon almost all of them were fired in the last few days of the fighting when the terms of the ceasefire had already been set.

"What's shocking--and I would say to me completely immoral is that ninety per cent of the cluster bomb strikes occurred in the last 72 hours of the conflict, when we knew there would be a resolution," he said.

Thanks for your comment Hopless

I have found some further information that is incredible but perhaps not so incredible for poster here to believe.


Responding to a report by Human Rights Watch charging Israel with war crimes in its conduct of the war in Lebanon that was written by its director Kenneth Roth, Rabbi Avi Shafran of Agudath Israel has called Roth "loathsome." An editorial in the New York Sun accused Roth of "de-legitimization of Judaism" because his group condemned Israel's strategy as "an eye for an eye." Rabbi Aryeh Spero in Human Events Online referred to Roth as a "human rights impostor," and likened him to "Nazis and Communists."

I think these comments by Rabbi Avi Shafran are disgraceful.

I am sorry to report that I have just discovered that Ken Roth's father is a Holocaust survivor. I think in the light of this information, that this comment by Rabbi Avi Shafran is particularly loathsome.

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You didn’t address my question at all. Plus you subscribed me to a comment that I did not make. What gives?

I have read through the rest of the comments but none address my question.

Answer 1

Well to be honest Israel has learned that it ought not rely on the international community to ensure its security. This is after there were no 'international concerns' regarding the slaughter of those who followed the Jewish religion in Europe during the 1940s and prior. (A crime against humanity/war crime) And also why the hell does the world always focus on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict/ Israel-Hezbollah conflict? What about Darfur? Myanmar? Zimbabwe? Western Sahara? etc, I am sure if those issues received the same amount of attention those issues could have been resolved by now. As long as there are those state and non-state actors calling for the destruction of Israel, no one can tell Israel what it can or cannot do to protect itself.
And to the connection to Lebanon... Do you think that if the IRA had been firing rockets onto British cities, her majesty's government would have just sat idly by? Or if the aborigines in Australia had done the same, what would the Australian government have done? What if some native American group in Canada was shelling American cities, I personally think the USA would bomb the **** out of them and no one would ask questions.
Why is Turkey bombing Kurdish villages in Iraq and there is no one saying a word?

Answer 2

Sherman D

Why does israel brush off international concerns?

You have asked a good question but it would be very difficult for anybody here to give you an authoritive answer. For myself, I will make these comments from my observations.

Zion has a strong organizational model. The weakness of this however, is that one hand will not know what the other is doing. Each part of the organization concentrates on it’s own function while leaving other sections to present a unified front. The interstices between these functional departments, has been slowly widening as departments “drop the ball.” I put this down to rivalries and finger pointing that always exist in every organization, with the impetus coming from failures in areas such as the Lebanon war; and growing international pressure.

It is not true to say that ersatz israel is not concerned with it’s international image. It is deeply concerned, as a tarnished image carries with it criticism that it cannot shoulder.

The article that you point to is an example of ersatz israel’s private actions being exposed to the outside media. In the light of unwelcome international observation, they have no choice but to protest with a loud voice that they do not care for the concerns of others. When you are caught doing wrong, your only excuse can be that you did not know it was wrong. When you obviously knew it was wrong, what do you say? The choice of zion is to say that they know better.

Answer 3

Israel used cluster bombs and so did Hezbollah. Is there one rule for Israel and another for Hezbollah? However, there is a difference in how they waged war.

Israel did not start the Second Lebanon War - this was a war of self-defense. Hezbollah kidnapped and killed our soldiers and Israel had to respond.

Hezbollah rained thousands of rockets on innocent people living in the North of Israel - terrorizing them whereas Israel did her best to warn the Lebanese when there would be an attack - to evacuate in time before the attack.

Who is upholding moral law in the face of war - Israel or Hezbollah (Lebanon who allows Hezbollah to exist)? The answer without doubt is Israel.

Answer 4

Sherman I was just reading that and wondering how Israel can still use weapons that were used in the Vietnam War, and how every other country is humane that in war they refuse to use the cluster bomb. More than one year after the Lebanon war people are still being killed. Even a hail storm a few months ago set off the bombs again. Why Israel doesn't listen or care about the international community , simple because we are gentiles maybe and they are above and beyond even God. Yes they were meant to kill and maim civilians and yes why in the last 72 hours to leave a reminder for a long time to come. Peace!

Answer 5

Excellent and thoughtful question, Sherman.
As believers that some imaginary deity ordained them as "God's Chosen People" (chortle!) the Israelis are arrogant enough to believe that they are above international law.
And above everything else, for that matter.

Answer 6

You're right they don't show concern over anything.
How long ago did Ariel Sharon walk into the temple mount, making these Arabs half nuts!
If he (just as one person) didn't worry about the ramifications of this action..why would anyone else worry about things like attacking settlements with tanks and guns against people who throw rocks!!

Answer 7

Why should Israel allow International concerns rule her in the first place? The Hezbollah has always stood behind woman and children and the weak for safety BECAUSE international concern place such a high value on them much like the Vietnamese did to our soldiers in the US. Enough of these silly mind games! Israel like any state/country has an obligation to defend itself. Unlike Christianity we are allowed to defend ourselves and not turn the other cheek.
Israel did the morally and halachaclly way: they notified everyone first.....what more could be done?
I seriously do not believe that any power will continue to let their citizens go through as much as we have let our people for the sake of "the international community"

Answer 8

You are wrong.
Israel's use of cluster bombs was deemed legal. It was on Yahho news earlier today:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071224/wl_mideast_afp/mideastconflictlebanonarms_071224211518

Answer 9

This perpetual animosity between humans over land and religion is quite tedious. Antiquated mumblings on all sides are destroying the peace. Just stop.

Answer 10

Israel begged the Lebanese government for years not to allow Hezbollah to get a hold. Nobody gave a damn, nobody listened. Hezbollah were murdering Israeli civilians and kidnapping Israeli solders. Finally yes, Israel did what ANY nation in that predicament would do - she went in.

But FIRST she sent warnings in both spoken and written Arabic etc so that innocents could vacate the buildings being targetted.

How is it Israel's fault that Hezbollah deliberately operated from schools, and hospitals, amidst innocent Lebanese?

You're essentially saying that Israel should have done nothing and thus cared more for the safety of the Lebanese than Hezbollah did. Innocent Israelis were dying. The Israeli government has a duty to protect them.