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I wanted to know this because a long time ago a black belt at my dojang got into a fight at school and wasn't the antagonist. he got expelled but the other kid only got suspended for a week, because they said that the black belt was fighting armed, when he was just using his legs and hands.

2007-12-24 09:08:10 · 10 answers · asked by Chizubaga! 3 in Sports Martial Arts

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ho man that sucks to be charged with assault with a deadly weapon using only shoes.... jeez, that sucks.

2007-12-24 09:29:35 · update #1

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Not in CANADA as the excessive force rule pretty well covers it.
Force must not exceed these limits
Allows you to escape
or Does not exceed the force apllied against you to control him.
If someone attacks you bare hands or uses any part of his body feet knees elbows etc that are not enhanced in any way steel toes brass knuckles etc you may respond in kind only as far as the two requirements above are met escape or control.You may not do some of the really stupid things some people on this forum have advised like punching him in the throat gouging out the eyes unless you want to do a lot of jail time.
You cant break his arms or legs either .

If he attacks with a weapon you may make the reasonable assumption your life is in danger and any action you take in the extreme maiming murder etc and the consequences are not going to be decided by you but very expensive lawyers so again escape or control is the better options .

In the case with the steel toed boots the charge was based on "the ability to cause greater damage than would be normal"therefore they are a weapon.No different than using a baseball bat.

2007-12-24 11:58:29 · answer #1 · answered by bunminjutsu 5 · 0 0

Legally, no you are not considered armed.

However, society tends to view anyone with any kind of training as automatically more responsible for their actions than the average joe who might simply lose their cool. Another thing that would be taken into consideration is how much force was applied by the martial artist given the situation at hand. For example, if you as a martial artist is attacked in a bar and you end up breaking the guy's arm you'll probably have more severe charges laid on you as opposed to placing the attacker in a joint lock.

Because of the stigmas about martial arts and martial artists, the law will less likely to be lenient with you - but legally considered armed - not by any law that I know of.

2007-12-24 10:03:53 · answer #2 · answered by dssr_sempai 2 · 0 0

In a street fight if someones a registered black belt or a card carrying boxer that person can be charged with assault with a deadly weapon even if they're totally unarmed.

Even if an untrained person kicks someone and causes injury their shoes can be thought of as deadly weapons. I know a person busted in exactly that manner, dude now has a felony on his record, 245 P.C. assault with a deadly weapon. The "weapons" were his work boots.

2007-12-24 09:20:27 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Where? UK is weird on defense. US? check state- New york had a section in assault law about pro fighters, martial arts professionals sometimes being an aggravating factor. California was requiring concealed carry license just to transport traditional weapons. Illinois had some case laws relating martial arts to reasonable force- a block that deliberately targeted shoulder or joint and fight stopped after partial disabled was reasonable, finish punch after dropping opponent who had given up was not reasonable force even if provoked. Weapons use split between unlawful/defined weapons and improvised weapons, carrying Kusari was a unlawful if not a security person weapon like a blackjack, carrying a chain with a padlock at end was simple tool to secure something- a ring with a bunch of keys was obviously a key chain- even if you had to snap it in someones face who threatened you. Bikers chain belts were a fashion statement until Chicago had some case laws that made them like slung shot/black jacks- Poppa Snake used one on a guy who put a gun to his head- gunman turned out to be cop who said was going to check vehicle for possible stolen parts, no mufflers. Where specifically are you interested in?

2007-12-25 13:47:26 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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2016-10-09 03:48:29 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Believe so. It's the same as being a Golden Gloves champ in boxing. You can be charged with assault with a deadly weapon.

2007-12-24 16:41:17 · answer #6 · answered by Mariposa 7 · 0 1

Yeah, that really is the case.
I know one professional boxer that got his license revoked because he fought outside the ring and got the charge for fighting with a weapon.

2007-12-24 12:10:59 · answer #7 · answered by Reaper 6 · 0 1

maybe in the US (i have nothing against th US they just have some silly laws)

2007-12-24 11:02:25 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No.

2007-12-24 23:16:49 · answer #9 · answered by Ray H 7 · 0 0

lol no, thats stupid.

2007-12-24 19:49:21 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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