If god can allow Mary to be born without original sin, why not the rest of us? Why put us through all this rigmarole of Christ being born man, being crucified, rising from the dead, ascending to Heaven, returning again for the apocolypse.
Why does this ominpotent creature do everything the roundabout way?
2007-12-24
07:47:14
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Dave G: When did I mention a bible?
2007-12-24
08:07:47 ·
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Hopeless: So Mary had no free will?
2007-12-24
08:08:32 ·
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hasse_john: Is dying really that generous when you have the power to come back? It's kind of like when I donate things to the poor that I was going to trow out anyway.
2007-12-24
08:09:43 ·
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mradrz4evr: That makes even less sense than the Christ myth itself. We're dumb, so god makes it complicated for us? huh?
2007-12-24
08:10:43 ·
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Micheala: You win the prize for fastest contradiction. No one is born without sin, yet babies are innocent. Neat trick, that.
2007-12-24
08:13:42 ·
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I haven't seen any reasonable explanation of why the CHrist myth is so convoluted. Free will explains only that god wants us to choose. It doesn't explain why god plots like a mad novelist on hashish.
2007-12-24
08:16:37 ·
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Because if he does it straight up then you can't have movie spinoffs of christmas, easter and all. And where would the world be without The Life of Brian?
2007-12-24 07:49:53
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answered by Anonymous
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Well, I can't speak for God, but the people that wrote this story knew they needed something epic to compete with the other religions of the era. They were up against Mithras, Judaism, Zoroastariansm, Hindi, Buddhism, and the religous beliefs of the Egyptians. Those stories are all much more dramatic and compelling than the simple "God doesn't hold grudges, just be a good person and you'll be alright" theory that would have resulted had they not spiced up the story with blood, sacrifice, betrayal and revenge. Christianity just wouldn't be the same.
2007-12-24 07:55:57
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answered by Anonymous
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Mary wasn't without sin. She found favor in God's eyes. But, that doesn't mean she was perfect. Jesus is also her Savior. Many of the people chosen by God to do His Will were imperfect. Jesus was the only man whom walked without sin. He kept the whole 'Law' perfectly.
Do some reading. It is impossible to judge an iceberg by just its appearance on the surface.
2007-12-24 08:00:49
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answered by F'sho 4
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First off, Mary was born WITH original sin, just like the rest of us. The only man to ever be sinless was Jesus, and that's because he was God in the form of a man.
As for "putting us through rigamarole..." We do that to ourselves by not accepting Jesus' gift of salvation. We try to make it on our own and search for something to fill the void in our souls that only God can help. God wants us to use our free will to CHOOSE Him, not have perfect little Christian robots marching around.
2007-12-24 07:56:31
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answered by Irritated Lactivist 7
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The 'roundabout way' as you put it, is due to our total inability to grasp the mind and the ways of a holy God - as your question demonstrates.
Mary WAS born in sin, as were we all, and there is no mere human who can pay to God a ransom to save a soul. Only a perfect human could substitute for another human. That's why the pre-existent Word of God became flesh and dwelt amongst us. He was perfect, without sin. And he's coming back to judge those who continue to ridicule the grace of God. But who knows - the grace of God could even touch you. It did me, and I used to be as thick as two planks when it came to understanding the ways of God.
2007-12-24 08:12:23
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answered by Annsan_In_Him 7
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The slate is being wiped clean, through Jesus Christ. The Lord already did everything for us, why do some people think that they are being punished because they don't accept the Lords gift, they are basically turning Gods Gift down.
2007-12-24 08:05:58
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answered by Lynn C 5
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The immaculate conception is a dogma of antichrist for it deny's Christ came in human(fallen)form as Mary herself was not fallen.
He wiped the slate clean with the flood,that did no good.
2007-12-24 07:53:22
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answered by Wonderwall 4
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Where in the bible did you read that Mary was born without sin. The bible says that all have sinned & come short of God's glory. ALL
The doctrin of a sinless Mary is NOT of God & is blasphemy.
It directly contradicts the word of God.
Get a bible & read it, furthermore, believe what it says.
Islam is a lie, if you die in your sin, you will not enter.
Babies are saved by the blood of the lamb--ONLY--
You didn't mention a bible. Your doctrin is Catholic, they have elevated their traditions above God's word.
2007-12-24 07:49:36
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answered by Dave G 3
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We are all born with sin. Including Mary.
Not sure exactly what you mean by "original sin", but there is no one who is exempt from sin when they are born. Yes as babies we are innocent, but as humans our nature is to sin, and that is unavoidable.
G-d uses all this "rigamorale" because he is allowing us to choose for ourselves whether or not we will follow him.
In ancient times their was always a sacrifice to "wipe the slate clean", but up until Yeshua we we sacrificed animals. Yeshua was the eternal sacrifice, and his death made it unnecessary to sacrifice animals afterwards.
Bottom line is that G-d does not force us to believe in him, we choose to do so.
His ways are not "roundabout". He does them this way because, again, he wants us to CHOOSE him. Which is why he gave us free will.
He created us with imperfections, but he has also created ways for us to come back to him.
2007-12-24 07:58:08
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answered by Anonymous
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You mean "wipe the slate clean, everybody goes to heaven, erase free will, take away everybody's brains, make them all the same, have a bunch of robots worship Me whether they want to or not" kind of God? Wow! that would be terrible.
2007-12-24 07:57:05
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answered by teran_realtor 7
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There is no slate. People are, frankly, stupid creatures, and can't see where they've screwed up. They live things the "roundabout way". Consider the life of Christ a lesson for a race who couldn't get it any other way.
2007-12-24 07:52:57
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answered by mradrz4evr 2
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