Christians -- do you realize how unoriginal your religion is?

Question

• Horus – Egypt 3000 B.C.
- Born on December 25th
- Born of a Virgin
- Adorned by 3 kings
- Teacher at 12
- Had 12 disciples
- Performed miracles

• Attis – Greece 1200 B.C.
- Born of a Virgin
- Born on December 25th
- Crucified
- Placed in a tomb, and after 3 days, was resurrected

• Krishna – India 900 B.C.
Born of a Virgin “Devaki” (the star in the East)
Performed miracles
Upon his death, was resurrected

• Dionysus – Greece 500 B.C.
- Born of a Virgin
- Born on December 25th
- He was a traveling teacher who performed miracles
- Referred to as “King of Kings” and “Alpha and Omega”
- Upon his death, was resurrected

• Mithra – Persia 1200 B.C.
- Born of a Virgin on December 25th
- Had 12 disciples
- Performed miracles
- Dead for 3 days, then resurrected
- Referred to as “The truth” and “The light”
- Sunday Worship

There are thousands of other "Christs" and deities that closely resemble the structure of the Christian religion. They all originated from "Horus" of Egypt, who was well documented in the ancient "hyroglifics" language.

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Answer 1

Most of them don't realize it, no.

Those who do, don't seem to care.

Answer 2

Well, I'm not surprised, as there has been prophecy and false gods are sure to arise from misinterpreting those falsities. The fact that none of them have been sustained throughout history is because the True Jesus came (at last). Don't you have anything better to do than constantly slam Christians and their faith?

Answer 3

First of all, if you follow the timeline of His life, Christ WAS NOT BORN ON DECEMBER 25. Judging by the time of year of his baptism, scholars place His birth between May-October. The Roman Catholic Church placed His birthday on December 25 to appease the pagans. In fact, the early church didn't celebrate His birthday at all. They celebrated his death and ressurection by taking communion, as Christ instructed.

It is my understanding, however, that Mithra had a very similar communion rite which predated Christ by 300 years.

Another difference, though, is that prophecy claiming that Christ's birth and life events would take place came about before the invention of all of these other deities, which (in my opinion) gave the adversary (Satan) plenty of time to create counterfeits.

Answer 4

do you relaize that ur an athiest? everyone can believe in everything and anything that they want to. and Christ was not born on December 25th so that pretty much proves evrything else wrong so w/e! but i will be praying for ouo because you need Jesus!!!!!!

Answer 5

Do you realise how unoriginal and lazy your research is?
Read the Da Vinci code i see!-Do you really think that Christians are dumb and everyone else is smarter?

Answer 6

Exactly. If you packed any more heathenism into "Christianity" it would explode. However, just because Satan has mimicked something does NOT imply it is false. "Christianity" is part of the "Babylon" we are to "come out of".

Answer 7

Ho hum....

Take me to their tomb, my friend.

I have been to Jerusalem. I have stood in the empty tomb where Jesus' body was lain.

The myths of the past have no bearing on the reality of history.

god bless

Answer 8

Well that's a very long post. I'm sorry I didn't bother to read it.

It's very important to you to try to make other people follow you, isn't it? Is that because you don't feel confident enough in your decision to go it alone? Or is it because you truly hate Christians and feel like you must tear them down to vent your rage?

Answer 9

Hi,

No surprises here. I've seen articles in books and television on Horus' similarities to Christ since the 70's. CBC television aired this again last week. Virgin births and resurrections seem to take place in many religions and thay phenomenah tends to separate the men from the gods so to speak.

Apparently this claim on Horus has been around for over 100 years but many theologians say the comparisons are vague and innacurate with Horus:

Claim #1-Horus and Jesus are born from a virgin.

Horus’s mother is Isis. Isis was married to Osiris. We do not know for what length of time, but presumably the marriage was consummated. Whether it was or wasn’t doesn’t matter though. After Osiris is killed, Isis puts him back together again (he was hacked into 14 pieces) except for his penis which was tossed in a river or a lake. Iris fashions a substitute penis for him, humps him and here comes Horus. There is nothing virginal about that.

Claim #2-Both Horus and Jesus were born to a Mary and Joseph. (Seb)

As noted Isis is Horus’s mother’s name not Mary. In addition, Seb is not Horus’s father, Osiris is. Seb is Osiris’s father. Further, Seb is a distinct name from Joseph. Putting them side by side does not make them synonyms, and that appears to be what was done here.

Claim #3-Both were born of royal descent.

This is accurate.

Claim #4-Both births were announced by angels and witnessed by shepherds.

I can find nothing that mentions that the birth of Horus was announced by an angel or witnessed by shepherds. I have found that Horus was born in a swamp, which is a pretty unlikely place for shepherds. In addition Acharya mentions that Horus was born in a cave. Massey makes no mention of this, although he does represent that Mithra was born in a cave.

Claim #5-Both were heralded by stars and angels.

There is no star that heralded Horus’s birth nor is there any angel announcing it. Archarya in a footnote in The Origins of Christianity indicates that that there are three stars named the three kings in Orion and then relates this to the birth of Jesus. When we look to the stories regarding Horus, we find no star or angel announcing his birth. To the extent that Acharya S relies upon Massey and Massey relies upon what is depicted in the panels at Luxor see (from an atheist) further regarding virgin birth and pronouncement by angels http://www.frontline-apologetics.com/carrier_luxor_inscription.htm

Claim #6-Both had later visitors (Horus-3 deities and Jesus-3 wisemen.)

There is no indication that there ever were 3 wisemen. The bible never mentions the number of wisemen, nor is there any document that reflects 3 deities at the birth of Horus. See the website referenced in Claim #5.

Claim #7-Both had murder plots against them.

There is mention that Seth did want to kill Horus, and Herod wanted to kill Jesus. so this is accurate.

Claim#8-Both came of age at 12, were baptized and their baptizers were executed.

There is no indication that Horus was preaching in a temple when he was 12. In fact, Massey indicates that Hours the child was depicted as a “weakling.” That doesn’t jive with story of Jesus preaching in the temple. Again this appears to have been a confabulation from Acharya and repeated by others.

Horus was never baptized in any of the Horus stories. In addition, Acharya mentions that John the Baptist is actually Anup the Baptizer. This individual is never mentioned anywhere in any Horus account. There is not even a footnote in Archaya’s on-line work The Origins of Christianity to support this. There is nothing.

Claim #9-Both had 12 disciples.

According to the Horus accounts, Horus had four semi-gods that were followers. There is some indication of 16 human followers and an unknown number of blacksmiths that went into battle with him. Horus did not have 12 disciples. Jesus reportedly did. Acharya failed to give a footnote to support this.

Massey points to a mural in the Book of Hades in which there are twelve reapers. Horus is not present in this scene. For Massey to make this connection he goes to a different scene within the same mural. In this scene there is a picture of a god whose name is the Master of Joy. Horus is never depicted although in other murals the artists do depict Horus. Had the artists ascribed 12 reapers in any relation to Horus all they had to do was put Horus at the scene. They did not.

Claim #10-Both walked on water.

Horus didn’t, or at least there is no record that I can find that he did. Massey does not maintain that Hours did. Massey uses wild conjecture to connect the story of fish man, Oannes, not Horus, to Jesus. Oannes came out of the sea during the day, and went back into the sea at night. Massey makes the two analogous because by his calculations, Jesus walked on water during the day.

As to Acharya, she as usual provides nothing to substantiate this.

Claim #11-Both performed miracles.

This is true although the miracles were different in scope and nature.

Claim #12 Both exorcised demons and raised Lazarus.

The actual claim is that Horus raised Osiris from the dead and that the name Osiris morphed to Lazarus. It doesn’t matter because Horus did not bring Osiris back to life. There is no mention of this in any document regarding the story. Horus did avenge Osiris’s death, but that did not raise Osiris from the dead.

Claim #13-Both held a Sermon on the Mount; both were transfigured on a mountain, died by crucifixion along with two thieves and were buried in tombs where they paid a quick visit to Hell and then rose from the dead after 3 days time, both resurrections were witness by women, and both will supposedly reign for 1,000 years in the Millennium.

These are the most damning claims if they were proven true in my opinion. Yet, I can locate none of this. No sermon, no transfiguration, certainly no crucifixion w/ two thieves, no trip to hell and no resurrection. There was an incident in which Horus was torn to pieces and Iris requested the crocodile god to fish him out of the water he was tossed into, which was done, but that’s it. I am at a loss to refute this because I can not find anything to support it.

Massey does compares a story about the Autumn Equinox related to Osiris, not Horus, as the symbolic crucifixion. There is no indication that Horus is involved in any way. There is no mention by Massey of any Sermon on the Mount. No mention or any actual crucifixion, no two thieves, no burial in a tomb. Massey does not maintain that anything of the sort occurred with Horus.

In short, of the claims outlined in this entry, I find the comparison between Horus and Jesus to consist of the following: they were of royal descent, they allegedly worked miracles and there were murder plots against them.


Mike K

Answer 10

it doesnt matter how unoriginial our religion is, all i can tell you is that ill be praying for you and if you dont get your life in check with JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY, you will have a rude awakining one day...