Jesus was not born on Christmas. I was talking to the priest at my church about that. He said the 25 is the date they settled on because it isn't clear what the real day was.
2007-12-22 14:14:33
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answered by ? 5
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OH NO, Actually you got an atheist here. But lets just go with the history instead of me insulting your believe in Jesus.
OK. First there is the problem that nobody knows when Jesus was born. The dates vary by as much as 14 years, just because of problems between the texts and known historical events.
Next. Sheppards do not stay out grazing their flocks at that time of the year. They did not do it then, and they do not do it now.
There is a serious problem with the timing of the Census.
OK. that is getting too deep, and pointing out the pre-existing pagan festivals is beside the point.
Nobody knows when Jesus was supposed to have been born, honestly. So they just chose a date. It just happens to be the same as the pagan festivals (convenient coincidence)
Just celebrate the Holiday with friends. Watch the little kids freak out over "Santa's Droppings" and enjoy.
Merry Christmas, and this atheist will be here to torment you again after "New Years"
2007-12-22 14:27:42
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answered by Buke 4
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I am a christian, not Jw, a christian of true faith and I don't believe that Jesus was born on Christmas either. It's only been in the last couple of years that I started questioning it. Last year I celebrated it with my kids because I hadn't decided yet but this year we are not celebrating because I decided I don't believe it's Christ's b-day. I have 4 daughters and Christmas has always been stressfull for me because of presents. This year I am more at peace than ever. That's not my reason for not celebrating, I've prayed and have studied the bible, that's how I made my decision. Yesterday I was going to ask this same question but I wasn't in the mood for all the rude comments from other"christians".
2007-12-22 14:40:30
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answered by SuperSkinny 3
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You are correct. There are millions of Christian who recognize the Jesus was not born on December 25th, or anywhere near that date (some recognize it and just don't care). As one answerer already stated, December 25 was chosen because there was already a pagan celebration on that day, Saturnalia. The early church tried to "Christianize" it to gain converts and it has evolved into the Christmas of today. Some interesting things to consider about the beliefs of Christmas:
1. The Bible, in fact, does not say when Jesus was born.
2. Today, most would say there were 3 "wise men". Again the Bible does not say how many there were.
3. These so called "wise men", were actually astrologers, or magi from the east (doesn't the Bible condemn this practice?). Deuteronomy 18:10, 12.
4. Would God guide such men to his son?
5. The "star" these men followed, was it from God? Notice the Biblical account says the "star" led them first to Jerusalem, not Bethlehem. That almost led to the descruction of the infant Jesus, but did lead to many infant baby deaths, as Herod ordered these killed. Matthew 2:16 "Then Herod, seeing he had been outwitted by the astrologers, fell into a great rage, and he sent out and had all the boys in Beth′le·hem and in all its districts done away with, from two years of age and under, according to the time that he had carefully ascertained from the astrologers. "
Do you really believe God supplied this "star" then, or was it an enemy of God and Jesus, who wanted the child dead?
6. By the time the astrologers found Jesus he was no longer in the manger, but in a home. Matthew 2:11 "And when they went into the house they saw the young child with Mary its mother, and, falling down, they did obeisance to it. They also opened their treasures and presented it with gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh. "
7. In England, Cromwell’s Parliament decreed in 1647 that Christmas be a day of penance and then banned it outright in 1652.
8.Puritan reformers believed that the church should not create traditions that did not exist in the Scriptures. They actively preached and distributed literature denouncing Christmas celebrations.
9.Between the years 1659 and 1681, Christmas was banned in the Massachusetts Bay Colony. According to the law enacted then, Christmas was not to be observed in any form or fashion. Violators were subject to a fine. Not only were Puritans in New England uncomfortable with celebrating Christmas but some groups in the middle colonies were also. Pennsylvania Quakers were as adamant as the Puritans in their view of the celebration.
10. M’Clintock and Strong’s Cyclopœdia says: “The observance of Christmas is not of divine appointment, nor is it of N[ew] T[estament] origin. The day of Christ’s birth cannot be ascertained from the N[ew] T[estament], or, indeed, from any other source.”
11. The earliest record of its observance was in 336, over 300 years after Christ died.
12. There is no Scriptural backing that any early Christians celebrated, in any way, the birth of Christ.
2007-12-22 14:41:23
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answered by BJTred 2
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I definately agree.. it is not scriptural. I wont explain all the detalis but Jesus was more likely born between Sept 29 and Oct. 1st during the Feast of Tabernacles according the John, and other historians agree he HAD to be born in the fall. If this is true, He would have been conceived between Dec. 23 and Dec. 25th. God became flesh and that is what we celebrate!! So don't believe that Christmas is a pagan holiday!
2007-12-22 14:20:47
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answered by me 2
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You are right. Jesus was not born in winter. I am a Christian, but the whole Christmas hype has no bearing on my relationship with God. If talking about Christmas becomes a good opportunity to share the Gospel, that's fine. On the other hand, I do not want to offend those Christians who defend this holiday religiously. God will strengthen their faith in time.
God bless.
2007-12-22 14:19:38
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answered by Mutations Killed Darwin Fish 7
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I am a Christian and I am fairly certain that He was not born on December 25th. Many believe He was born sometime in March because the shepherds were tending their sheep at night, and it would have been too cold in the winter. But really, does it matter what the exact date was? The fact is, He was born, He lived, He was crucified and He is risen! What a great reason to celebrate every day!
2007-12-22 14:17:37
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answered by mysongsrhis 3
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No, Elizabeth S you are not the only person to believe that Christ was not born on the 25 of December.
Christmas is the mass of Christ it is a pagan ritual that the Roman Catholics boldly instituted into Christianity so that pagans would accept Christianity.
But, Adding Christ to a pagan ritual doesn't make it "Christian" and it never will be.
They say put Christ back into Christmas, read your Bible you will see that He Never was in it and He Never will be.
God Bless You
2007-12-22 14:23:51
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answered by B Baruk Today 6
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No, he was not born on Dec. 25. The Bible doesn't give an exact date. Christmas orignated hundreds and hundreds of years ago when the Roman people would have a month long celebration in the early winter. Catholics thought this was a pagan ritual and changed it to set aside to celebrate Christ's birth -- thus Christmas.
2007-12-22 14:16:34
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answered by Michelle 4
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I am a born again, Evangelical Christian, and do not believe that Jesus was born on Christmas. The weather in Israel is similar to the United States, and it would be too cold in December for shepherds to watch their flocks at night.
The reason that Christians began to celebrate Christ's birth was due to the pagan revelry that occurred during the feasts of Saturnalia and the Winter Solstice. These pagan holidays were quite a temptation for new believers in Christ, who had not learned to control their passions.
The bishops in Rome (especially) decided to give the Christians something else to do during the pagan holiday, recalling the birth of Christ. Not that it was Christ's birthday, but to celebrate that He was born to save mankind. The held a Mass in honor of Christ's birth. (Hence the name Christ-mas.) Christmas was created in opposition to pagan celebrations.
2007-12-22 14:15:56
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answered by Anonymous
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