What's the best way to scream out what you've recently learned about a planned genocide?

Answer 1

I've usually seen it accomplished by scrawling your message on a piece of cardboard, failing to bathe or wash you clothes for approximately one month, and presenting your discovery to passing motorists while standing on the center island of a busy inner city intersection (stoplight, preferably).

Why improve on proven performance?

Answer 2

You could talk to your UN representative, but the country involved is probably a part of the UN anyway, so they are tacitly complicit. However, they are really the only ones who can do anything about Genocide, so present them with the Country of origin, Which part of the population is going to be exterminated and how and when.

Answer 3

OK, I believe that genocide is the systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group. Who is the group -IE: the proposed victims? Who intends to to the killing? In addition to calling the police, you might see if the victims have a web site, and send them all of the information we have. In addition, you might want to contact the news media and give them all the info as well. Responsible journalists will check your information to verify that it is factual, then they will do the screaming for you.
Having such information and doing nothing would be despicable, so good for you for wanting to do something about it.

Answer 4

911

Answer 5

I'd speak to the chief diplomat at the nearest embassy or consulate of the country involved.

or late night talk radio.

Answer 6

At a police station

Answer 7

Coast to coast am. Particularly if you are going to give the kind of specifics you gave here.

Answer 8

Protest who did it.. because you can not change history...

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The Fallacious Armenian Genocide Claims

Dear Sir or Madam:

Before I address the issues raised in your reply, I must admit I am very disappointed in the fact that no individual is courteous enough to sign off on your reply. However, this does not surprise me in the least. It is just another example of how the Australian Labor Party treats Australians of Turkish ancestry and is indicative of the Australian Labor Party’s long held contemptuous view that Turks are nothing more than second or third class citizens in this country.

You state, “Labor recognisesthe legitimate grievances of the Armenian people, and their undisputable suffering during World War One.” However, you fail to mention anything about the suffering of the hundreds of thousands of Turks and other Muslims, Jews and Christians that suffered just as much if not more so than the Armenian citizens of the Ottoman Empire during the material times. Yet again another example indicative of the how the Australian Labor party views Australians of Turkish descent. Is it the case that the Australian Labor does not care about the millions of Turks and others that suffered and died in that part of the Ottoman Empire during the material times ? Further, still since it appears you recognise the “legitimate grievances” of the Armenian People can you please explain to me and other Australians what exactly are these “legitimate grievances”’ ?

You also state, “We also understand that this is a particularly sensitive debate within Turkey. Our hope is that Turkey can once again display the openness and progressive nature of its society by allowing that debate to take place in an uninhibited and informed manner.” Let me in assure you that this “debate”is particularly sensitive to Turks all over the world. Some one hundred to one hundred fifty thousand approximately here in Australia alone which are by and large Australian citizens. You do not need to “hope”for Turkey to “allow” this debate to take place in an “uninhibitedand informed manner” because Turkey wants these issues of fact resolved more than any other third party nation in the world. To that end, I draw your attention to the numerous calls by theTurkish Government for the Republic of Armenia to jointly set up a Historical Commission in order to investigate these claims. Moreover, also to have any other third party nation that wishes to partake or be observer witness to the Commission and it’s work. The Republic of Armenia continues to ignore this open invitation. I will also point out that the Armenian archives remain closed as of this date. The Ottoman Archives have been open for many years to any Scholar wishing to study them.

The Turkish Government has also challenged any State or Nation that has recognised the fallacious Armenian Genocide claims to commence proceedings in any International Tribunal, which the Republic of Turkey is a signatory too, such as the European Court of Human Rights or the International Court of Justice. The Republic of Turkey has categorically stated that they will waive any defence in relation to standing and will stand in the place of the former Ottoman Empire as the Successor State. The Republic of Turkey has also stated that they will also waive any defence under the retrospective application of the international laws of “Genocide”just so that this serious and heinous criminal allegation can be resolved in aproperly convened tribunal. It appears at this stage that none of the 22 Nations that have politically recognised the fallacious Armenian Genocide claims wishes to resolve this matter in a properly convened International Tribunal; they pay lip service to the hundreds of thousands of dead Armenians and even more dead Turks and other Muslims. This behaviour by politicians is deplora bleand beneath any normal standards of morality.

You also state, “The high degree of passion that both peoples have for the issue makes it critical to resolve for the stability of the region and the future of relations between them. As such, it is Labor's strong desire for acalm, respectful and compassionate environment to be created, in which to discuss and resolve this issue.” If you truly believe that it is “critical to resolve these issues for the stability of the region and the future of relations between them,” then may I suggest that IF the Labor party wins the up coming elections it exerts pressure on the Republic of Armenia and the Armenian Diaspora to co – operatewith the Republic of Turkey in forming a joint Historical Commission which the Commonwealth can be witness or observer to. If Armenia refuses then will the Labor Party (again IF Labor isinstalled into Government) have the intestinal fortitude to commence action against the Republic of Turkey within the Jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice so that these lingering and damaging issues can be decided upon once and for all ?

You see, I believe that the vast majority of Australians with Turkish ancestry can see Labor’s attempt at a grubby grab for votes in Mr Howard’s electorate by your standing Candidate Ms McKew, and Labor’s total disregard and contempt that itholds for Turks within Australia. Afterall, it was the Carr Labor Government that placed the fallacious “ArmenianGenocide” plague with the NSW Parliament grounds without ever listening to the thousands of Turks living in NSW. Further, no mention was ever made about the hundreds of thousands of Turks and other Muslims murdered at the hands of the Armenian citizens of the former Ottoman Empire. Where is the plague to commemorate their murders and deaths ? Will Federal Labor place a commemorative plague on the grounds of Federal Parliament to remember and honour those deaths? What will it take to get Australian politicians to hear the cries of the Australian Turks, were the Armenian tactics of murdering the Turkish Consul General and his bodyguard in Sydney in 1980, and the attempted bombing of the Turkish Consulate in Melbourne in 1986 effective ? Are those the sorts of tactics it takes to get Australian Politicians to really listen?
Let me remind you of their Honours comments from the Court of Criminal Appeal of Victoria in relation to one Mr Levon Demirian’s appeal and I quote;-

In a joint judgment, McGarvie and O'Bryan JJsaid:

“The type of activity engaged in by the applicant and others is rarein this country but terrorist acts are common place in the country from whence the applicant emigrated to Australia. Unless courts in this country arevigilant in imposing condign sentences for such conduct evil-minded persons might seek to emulate this conduct. The conduct of the applicant in conspiring with others to endanger life and cause serious injury to property by detonatingan explosive substance beneath the Consulate BROUGHT SHAME TO THIS COUNTRY [my emphasis] this country when the bomb exploded. The Turkish nation is afriendly power and members of the Turkish community now assimilated into Australian society were affronted by this evil deed. The heinousness of thecrime is accentuated by the fact that the applicant abused the sanctuary thiscountry offered him.

When a crime of such notoriety and heinousness is committed IN THE NAME OF A POLITICAL CAUSE [my emphasis] this Court is notrequired to fix a minimum term. The POLITICAL NATURE [my emphasis] of the offence and its seriousness render the fixing of such a term inappropriate. A sentence imposed in these circumstances should be exceptional to mark theseriousness with which the crime is viewed and therefore no minimum term should be fixed.” (1988 33 A CrimR at p 474)

58 Tadgell Jagreed, in relation to that aspect of the appeal (at p 481).

Please be advised that I will be forwarding on the contemptuous reply from the Australian Labor Party to all Turkish Media outlets within and external to Australia, and further I will make as many Australians of Turkish descent be aware that a vote for Labor is a VOTE to Recognise the fallacious Armenian Genocide the same as what Carr did in NSW. It is wrong and apprehensible to play politics with the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people just purely for the grubby purpose of grabbing votes.

Regards

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The 518,000 Turkish Victims of Armenians

The real hypocrisy and tragedy of this tale is that the 518,000 Turks/Muslims and Sephardic Jews who were outright murdered by criminal Armenians is never addressed by hypocritical and devious "genocide scholars." I don't know if all half-million of these victims' names have been documented, but certainly the Ottoman government workers made a document of who was killed and how, just like any police report recording crimes in other countries.

Of course, deceptive pro-Armenians are going to be quickest to shout "lies," but think about this: in the middle of WWI, the Ottoman Empire gave the finger to the West. They rid themselves of the humiliating Capitulations that amounted to economic extortion, working further to sicken the Sick Man... and the Ottomans were well aware by this time of the futility of getting a fair shake from the West. Does anyone honestly think these bureaucrats had the thought of making things up, in order to fool future historians? The only reason why this information was uncovered by scholars was because the Armenian propaganda became overwhelming during the 1970s-80s and Armenian terrorists were using Turks for target practice, while the West turned a blind eye... and thus, the Turks finally decided to speak up.

Now contrast with all of the made up horror stories created by lying missionaries and Armenians, and recorded faithfully in biased, partisan newspapers like The New York Times... coordinated by propaganda outlets such as the British branch of Wellington House operating illegally out of U.S. soil, master deceivers like Vahan Cardashian that made Admiral Bristol's blood boil, and liberal and Christian sympathizers always ready to sniff a boo-hoo for the poor, innocent Armenians.

"... Poor devils, no one seems to want them anywhere, and yet despite all they have gone through, I did not see a thin one amongst a good many thousand I saw, and most looked cheery too. The massacres seem to have been a good deal exaggerated ... I don't know what there is about the Armenians, but no one, not even the missionaries, seems to have a good word to say about them...."

Lt. General Sir W. N. Congreve to General Sir Henry Wilson, Cairo, 19 October 1919; regarding Armenians flooding Cilicia, under the aegis of the French. Source, under "A British Observer"

After pointing to another story where the Turks were reported to be be out of control as "The whole story was pure invention"...British observer C. F. Dixon Johnson went on to report (The Armenians, 1916): "When the Earl of Crewe replied on October 5, 1915, in the House of Lords to the Earl of Cromer’s question as to whether H.M.’s Government had received any information confirmatory of the statements made in the press in relating to "renewed massacres of Armenians", he based his information on a report of the British Consul at Batum, which in turn relied on a Tiflis newspaper, probably The Horizon, "an Armenian propagandist organ and therefore quite unreliable".

"...In some towns containing ten Armenian houses and thirty Turkish houses, it was reported that 40,000 people were killed, about 10,000 women were taken to the harem, and thousands of children left destitute; and the city university destroyed, and the bishop killed..."

George M. Lamsa, rare missionary of integrity, "The Secret of the Near East," (1923), page 133

Now what are the names of these Armenian victims?

Of course there are some legitimate ones, as nobody is saying Armenians did not suffer. But the brunt of these stories are from "Armenian Oral History," which is finally what Armenians who have written against this site rely upon for evidence in the letters I have received: "My grandma done tol' me."

Here is another Armenian who felt it was good enough to validate his horror stories on the basis of having been told; the assassin of Talat Pasha, Soghoman Tehlirian, at his trial:

DISTRICT ATTORNEY ” The defendant testified that the massacres took place just outside the city limits of Erzinga. I am informed that, after the caravan had gone quite a distance from Erzinga, armed Kurdish bandits attacked the caravan in a pass and even many Turkish gendarmes
were killed trying to protect the caravan. Would the defendant please answer whether or not they were attacked by Kurdish bandits?

DEFENDANT (Tehlirian) ” I was told that it was the Turkish gendarmes who opened fire on us.

SORRY. Hearsay does not constitute as judicial evidence.

Especially from fraudulent Armenians and their mindless "genocide scholar" supporters, who have a track record of not holding truth at a premium.

What we mostly see are things like:

- The girl from Zila
- A traveller madam in Anatolia writing from town X
- An absolutely trustworthy gentleman from Switzerland
- Prof. Y from College Z in town X

Look at some of the "documentation"; Albert Mackenzie, likely of the Near East Relief, wrote in Sept. 6, 1922 horror story account, pointing to his source:

"This extract is a memorandum by a foreign resident in Turkey... Obviously the source of this testimony coming as it does from a neutral resident, is above reproach."

No names. Then Mr. MacKenzie wrote:

"To satisfy myself of its correctness I elicited the story from an Armenian lad in Turkey, who had been in this deportation."

No names.

The "eyewitnesses" are almost never named. Curious, eh, wot?

Here's how Lord Bryce justifies himself, in his preface to "The Treatment of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire":

In presenting this evidence it has been necessary in very many cases to withhold the names of the witnesses, because to publish their names would be to expose such of them as are still within the Turkish dominions, or the relations and friends of these persons, to the ruthless vengeance of the gang who now rule those dominions in the name of the unfortunate Sultan.

Convenient. Also serves as corroboration of how monstrous the Turks were, which is the very intention of this biased religious man heading Wellington House, Britain's propaganda division.

Okay, so he can't provide the names of the "witnesses" living in the Ottoman Empire, since their lives would be in great danger from the evil Turks. However, the Viscount goes further:

Even in the case of those neutral witnesses who are safe in their own countries, a similar precaution must be observed, because many of them, or their friends and associates, have property in Turkey which would at once, despite their neutral character, be seized by the Turkish Government.

Convenient!

In his footnote, the Lord explains:

...(W)herever the title of a document is given without such a footnote, that means that the Editor is in possession of the author's name, even if the name is not published but represented by a symbol (e.g., " Dr. W'), or by such periphrases as " A foreign resident,"

In 2001, with fanfare at Great Britain's House of Lords, Ara Sarafian and the Gomidas Institute re-released this "Bible" of their genocide, with the missing names put in, from Arnold Toynbee's originals. While Sarafian is not an impartial party by any stretch of the imagination, let's say he did a scholarly work in locating these names. [Here is a later examination.] Gomidas describes them as "eyewitness accounts from United States consular and missionary sources, as well as the testimony of German, Italian, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Greek, Kurdish, and Armenian witnesses." Then we must contend ourselves with the objectivity of each of these sources, and whether any of them did NOT have an agenda. I already know from preparing this site that the chances are painfully slim, from the descriptions above.

Let's take a clue from Lord Bryce's assurance:

The question now arises---What is the value of this evidence? Though the names of many of the witnesses cannot be given, I may say that most of them, and nearly all of those who belong to neutral or belligerent countries, are persons entitled to confidence in respect of their character and standing, and are, moreover, persons who have no conceivable motive for inventing or perverting facts, because they are (with extremely few exceptions) either neutrals with no national or personal or pecuniary interests involved, or else German subjects. Were I free to mention names, the trustworthiness of these neutrals and Germans would at once be recognised.

We must keep in mind this is the evaluation of a man who likely thought himself beyond reproach, and as a man of integrity. However, he was a Turk-despising liberal in the Gladstone tradition, and after traveling to the region in 1876 (for his book Transcaucasia and Ararat), he developed a deep compassion with the Armenian people... and would become the one Briton most associated with Armenians, beginning with an 1881 talk in Harvard. And now, after some forty years of incubating his Armenophilia, he had a patriotic job as propagandist to perform for His Majesty's government.

Of course Bryce is going to think most of these Turk-despising missionary and consular peas in his pod are going to be similarly beyond reproach. The only way to prove this is to take each of these names and determine their credibility. That likely won't happen soon, because the Turks are largely indifferent (with "neutral" academicians scared off from jumping into this fray of character assassinators) and in contrast to the deep-pocketed Gomidas and Zoryan Institutes, where people like Ara Sarafian get paid to obsess over their reason for existence, there's really nobody to do it. I wish I could... but I can't devote all of my life to this nuttiness.

At any rate, I digressed to the unrelated field of names of the "witnesses," when the main topic is the names of the "victims." But that's the point. For example, in Bryce's preface, he alludes to "an Armenian gentleman in Egypt," "an Armenian girl whose family lived in the neighbourhood of the Italian Consulate," and "a lady who was herself deported in the third convoy of exiles." So it doesn't really matter if some names were connected to these parties, assuming a conscientious job was done in finding these names. The question is this:

The idea, say genocide advocates, was for the Armenians to be "annihilated." If there were real Armenian witnesses to these massacres (and not to say some massacres did not occur), why would the Turks have spared the "witnessing" Armenians?

Would that make sense?

So if an Armenian told a sympathetic missionary or consul (and if these "western witnesses" witnessed anything, it was dead or emaciated bodies, often exaggerated by their own biases. Dead bodies littered the graveyard of the Ottoman Empire; thousands of Turks were dying daily of famine, according to Ambassador Morgenthau. I have yet to come across a report of a European or American actually witnessing a massacre taking place) that 10,000 Armenians were brutally massacred in the village of such and such, what were the names of these victims?

Sam Weems did an excellent job (in "Armenia — Secrets of a 'Christian' Terrorist State") of catching Richard Hovannisian at his "cooked book" figures (from "The Republic of Armenia"), using the same numbers for genocide victims as for refugees. There is no way for these ridiculous numbers of mortality to be supported, in true scholarly fashion.

The English have "heard stories ad nauseam of massacres, of pillages, of the ravishing of women, but none of these stories have been corroborated by a single European eye-witness."

British Captain C. B. Norman, "The Armenians Unmasked," 1895... another "massacre" period employing the same deceptive Armenian practices

BRYCE'S HARD COPY PROOF!

Before we go on to the REAL names of REAL victims, that Lord Bryce and the missionaries and consuls didn't give one bean about, indulge a digression. While glancing at Bryce's propaganda report, I noticed in Chapter VI ("Village of Erzeroum"):

"The number (of Armenian villagers) must have been between 10,000 and 15,000. Of this number very few returned, and very few reached Erzindjan. A few took refuge with friendly Kurds (Kizilbashis), but all the rest must have been killed.

They were escorted by gendarmes, but the people responsible for the massacres would probably be chettis or Hamidia.

One of the Kurds was charged in court for murder, pillage and rapine, and he thereupon produced a paper and laid it before them, saying : 'These are my orders for doing it'."

The Hamidia would be the Kurdish legions first put together by Sultan Abdul-Hamit, whose job was (as genocide advocates tell us) to harass or murder Armenians, in complicity with the government.

But look at this: one of these Kurds was carted into court. If the government was intentionally behind a state-sponsored plan for extermination, WHY WOULD THIS KILLER EVEN BE TRIED? How many SS men did Hitler bring to court, for killing Jews?

Since Bryce got this report from whomever he got it from, what became of the Kurd? If this document was produced, how could the court have convicted him? They would have gone against the law of their federal government!

Where's the crucial EPILOGUE to this tale?

And here's the most important question:

As you know, the pro-Armenians have been searching far and wide for the smoking gun of HARD EVIDENCE of "genocide." The British certainly failed to come up with any during the Malta Tribunal (1919-1921).

YET THIS ORDINARY KURDISH FIGHTER (assuming he wasn't on the officer level) MANAGED TO HAVE A COPY OF THESE CRUCIAL ORDERS??

If there were that many orders floating around, how come nobody has managed to come up with A SINGLE ONE?

Here's Bryce's conclusion to the above tale:

It is not certain who gave these orders, but the presumption is that they originated with the Government at Constantinople.

Hoo-boy!

A REAL OTTOMAN ORDER:

"The province of Erzurum has informed us that a convoy of 500 Armenians who were evacuated from Erzurum has been killed by tribes between Erzurum and Erzinjan. It is expected that efforts will be made to protect the lives of the Armenians being transferred, and those who try to escape 'en route' and attack the officials responsible for protecting them will be punished. But under no circumstances will the people be allowed to interfere. Incidents resulting in such killings will not be allowed to occur. For this reason it is absolutely necessary that every possible measure is taken to protect the Armenians against attacks by tribes and villagers, and that those who attempt murder and violence are severely punished."

Source: "Dahiliye Nezareti Evrak, oda, Sif,Kal,File 53,854",14 june 1915 [Ministry of Interior, files]

I certainly did a wonderful job of digressing into areas I had no intention of going into. Even though this is the rare "offensive" page against the hypocritical and deceitful genocide advocates, it still turned out to be a "defensive" one. That's because the avalanche of their garbage, which they have had the luxury of putting together and perfecting for over a century, is just so voluminous.

Below is a very partial list of REAL victims, murdered ruthlessly by Armenian criminals, almost all of whom got away with their foul acts against humanity. these were the Armenian fighters under such cowardly leaders as Dro, Antranik, and Muradyan.

Even in this late day and age (its early 2005 as I'm writing this, with so much "genocide" sensitivity, nobody cares about these victims. The "Lord Bryce" gang had an excuse; there was a war to be fought, and a means to justify the secret treaties intending to steal Ottoman loot. What's the excuse of today's Elie Wiesels and Samantha Powers? Why do they pretend these victims don't exist? We know Muslim lives are not valuable (ironically, the victims of the Armenians also included many Sephardic Jews... as the Armenians went about their mad bloodlust to ethnically cleanse lands the Armenians were not the majority in, to justify their hoped for "Greater Armenia"), but... THERE WERE OVER ONE HALF-MILLION DELIBERATELY SLAUGHTERED!

A partial list of the 518,000 victims of Armenians

The following is from the Ottoman archives, from a source similar to this one.

"List of male inhabitants of Mergehu Village murdered or annihilated with the utmost savagery by local Armenians who joined Armenian gangs strengthening the Russian Forces":

Names Method of Annihilation
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Haci Ibrahim, son of Abdi Bullets and bayonet
Abdi, son of Haci Ibrahim Bullets and bayonet
Reso, son of Abdi Beaten and cut into pieces
Sado, son of Omer Beaten and cut into pieces
Aso, son of Reso Beaten and cut into pieces
Kulu, son of Canko Stabbed in the eye with a bayonet
Musa, son of Canko Bayonet in his eye
Emin, son of Molla Hamit Bayonet in his eye
Molla Abdullah, son of Hamit Bayonet in his eye
Ibo, son of Haci Bayonet in his eye
Sado, son of Haci Bayonet in his eye
Abdullah, son of Canko Slaughtered
Ibo, son of Ahmet Abdomen ripped open
Ismail, son of Ibo Burnt in fire
Ibo, son of Ahmet Abdomen ripped open
Ismail, son of Ibo Burnt in fire
Musto, son of Ozu Bullets
Mahmut, son of Seyyo Slaughtered
Kocak, son of Birro Bullets
Musto, son of Husnu Bullets
Uso, son of Alo Bullets
Maksut, son of Peri Bullets
Haci, son of Peri Bullets
Mehmet, son of Hasanali Bayonet
Ibo, son of Hasanali Bayonet
Abdo, son of Mehmed Bayonet
Molla Suleyman Burnt in oven
Mazgi, son of Abdullah Stabbed in abdomen by bayonet
Sulis, son of Hasan Bullets
Mahmo, son of Mehmet Stabbed with a dagger
Murat, son of Hasan Stabbed with a dagger
Uso, son of Avci Blinded with a bayonet
Lesko, son of Mehmet Stabbed with a dagger
Abdullah, son of Kasim Bullets
Coban Abdullah Bullets
Seymo, son of Mumin Bullets
Muammer, son of Reso Bullets
Paso, son of Merzi Bullets
Gulu, son of Bitor Bullets
Murat, son of Yusuf Bullets and bayonet
Gulu, son of Bitor Bullets
Murat, son of Yusuf Bullets and bayonet
Cedo, son of Haci Ibrahim Bullets and bayonet
Faki Mehmet Bullets and bayonet
Silo, son of Abdulcebbar Bullets and bayonet

List of massacred females from the same village:
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Kasi, daughter of Huso and
wife of Haci Ibrahim Bullets
Fati, daughter of Isa,
wife of Aduz Bullets
Zeresan, daughter of Amat,
wife of Reso Bayonet
Gullu, daughter of Iyso Cutting off her breasts
Sulnu, daughter of Sulo, Ripping open her abdomen and burning
wife of Ibo her baby in oven
Fatma, daughter of Ibo Slaughtered and burnt in oven
Fidan hatun Burnt in oven
Gulfizar, daughter of Hacihan,
wife of Musto Slaughtered
Rahime, daughter of Mehmet,
wife of Halil Bullets
Binefs, daughter of Haci Kerim,
wife of Suleyman Burnt in oven
Binefs, daughter of Haci Kerim,
wife of Suleyman Burnt in oven
Mahiye, daughter of Ali,
wife of Sivno Slaughtered
Hati, daughter of Haci,
wife of Ahmet Slaughtered
Hacer, daughter of Meho Bullet and bayonet

List of Females of the same village raped and murdered:
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Nadire, daughter of Haci, wife of Suvis
Hani, daughter of Kulu, wife of Zerko
Zaliha, daughter of Telli, wife of Silo
Arap, daughter of Sami, wife of Hilo

Wounded males and females of the same village:

(a long list)

List of massacred males and females at Istuci village:
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Mikail, son of Alo Bullets
Musto, son of Ismail Bullets
Dervis, son of Maksut Bullets
Musto, son of Ismail Bullets
Dervis, son of Maksut Bullets
Ali, son of Nimet Bayonet
Esat, son of Kelo Bayonet and bullets
Isa, son of Nebi Bayonet and bullets
Cevher, son of Gani Beaten by rifle butt
Ziro, daughter of Hasan Died from injuries
Hazal, daughter of Ali,
wife of Acem Died from injuries
Hamsa, daughter of Huseyin,
wife of Huseyin Died from injuries

List of raped women at Istuci village in life:

Sabo, daughter of Maho Virgin
Miri, other daughter of Maho Virgin
Emine, daughter of Meho, wife
of Sofi Salih
Sahap, daughter of Ali, wife
of Nevruz
Gullu, daughter of Mahi Virgin