Both these organizations are race based and not religion based. Their ideology is based on the idea that the white race is supreme. They use Mein Kampf and some of Nietzsche's writings etc to support their believes. They do not use scripture to justify their actions.
2007-12-22
00:39:37
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Robin the Rockin' VT: Please educate me, could you point me to a link where the KKK or the Neo-Nazis justify their actions using scripture?
2007-12-22
00:47:12 ·
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Robin the Rockin' VT: Thanks for the link, I visited the page and they explicitly claim to be a Christian group. I give you that. However, I am yet to see ANY justification of their postion using the Bible. That is what I am looking for, if a group claims to base its actions on Christianity, it needs to show us where in the Bible it finds justification for its actions. I will look around some more.
2007-12-22
00:52:58 ·
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Robin the Rockin' VT: Sorry but none of the links you provide contain a reference to Bible texts that can be used to support white supremacy.
2007-12-22
00:57:19 ·
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Robin the Rockin' VT: That link talks about banks, bars, inequity etc but not about racial supremacy.
2007-12-22
00:59:22 ·
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Robin the Rockin' VT: That link talks about banks, bars, inequity etc but not about racial supremacy.
2007-12-22
00:59:23 ·
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I think (IMHO) that they need an excuse to reject Christ, so they tear down straw men and then pat themselves on the back for doing such a wonderful job making Christianity look bad.
2007-12-22 00:55:26
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answered by no1home2day 7
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This is the first I have heard that these groups are christian based but it wouldn't surprise me. If you read the catholic bible you will see that some of its teachings are slavery and that it is male orientated. Thats not to say catholics are for slavery as it is old teachings just some people can take things to literally. However I cannot quote on whether or not race is an issue in the bible.
2007-12-22 08:47:24
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answered by Anonymous
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Here are some Bible quotes these groups use to justify their actions.
Genesis 9:20-27
20 And Noah began to be a farmer, and he planted a vineyard. 21 Then he drank of the wine and was drunk, and became uncovered in his tent. 22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brothers outside. 23 But Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it on both their shoulders, and went backward and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned away, and they did not see their father’s nakedness. 24 So Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done to him. 25 Then he said: “ Cursed be Canaan; A servant of servants He shall be to his brethren.” 26 And he said: “ Blessed be the LORD, The God of Shem, And may Canaan be his servant. 27 May God enlarge Japheth, And may he dwell in the tents of Shem; And may Canaan be his servant.”
Leviticus 18:23
23 " 'Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.
Col 3:22-24
22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything, not only while being watched and in order to please them, but wholeheartedly, fearing the Lord.
23 Whatever your task, put yourselves into it, as done for the Lord and not for your masters,
24 since you know that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward; you serve the Lord Christ.
Deuteronomy 7:1
When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations ... then you must destroy them totally. 2 Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.
Ex 21:20-21
20 When a slave-owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall b punished. 21But if the slave survives for a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner’s property.
2007-12-22 09:08:32
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answered by hairypotto 6
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Look a little closer at the rhetoric.
They bring up Jesus quite a bit.
People forget that Christians HAVE formed terrorist groups in the past.
Irish Republican Army. Abortion Clinic Bombers. Just to name two off the top of my head.
That's in addition to the groups you've mentioned.
Yes they use Hitler and some Nietzche, but they also use the Bible.
2007-12-22 08:51:23
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answered by annarkeymagic 3
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Kluckers and Christian Identity adherents are many of the same people. You will note that the KKK burns "T", not say..."SH" for secular humanism.
With neo-nazis I think it's fair to say their ideology is secular, but again when it comes to organized racism it's mostly all the same few losers.
2007-12-22 08:49:38
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answered by michinoku2001 7
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Well the KKK incorporated prayer and crosses in their lynchings. (Go figure that one). Nazis were also of the Christian faith.
Obviously, in neither case, did the basic tennents of Christianity keep those groups from committing horrendous acts.
I think the point is that all neighbhorhoods generate trash.
2007-12-22 08:48:16
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answered by Fancy That 6
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The KKK states that it is a Christian organization. I saw something about it on a history channel program the other day, so I Googled it. It's true.
2007-12-22 08:47:31
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answered by Anonymous
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"We are a Christian Identity association, meaning we believe & practice the tenets of true Christianity that is for our people & to our people. Aryan Nations is the political expression of its Church, the Church of Jesus Christ Christian; & its mission is to witness to our Folk the Gospel of the Kingdom of God & His Truth. We believe His Truth to be both Racial & Spiritual. It is the continuing work of Jesus Christ & the Apostles to the "Lost Sheep of the House of Israel"-Christendom-the White Race."
http://www.aryannations.org/
2007-12-22 09:01:36
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answered by Bajingo 6
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To me orginzations are real nigers,remember Psalm 37:11"But the meek shall inherit the earth;and shall delight themselves in the abduance of peace."and 37:12:"The wicked plotteh againist the just,and gnasseth upon him with his teeth." They use fear and no better then Hitler's gestapo. They are nigers.
2007-12-22 09:09:21
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answered by Anonymous
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I think mostly because of the little things. Like the picture of the KKK founder hanging in so many masonries. Like the retired Nazi military working in our government. Although I will be the first to admit that it floats around like a rumor. I haven't actually gone around looking for KKK and Nazi ties to our institutions.
2007-12-22 08:44:56
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answered by Anonymous
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