Isn't saying "I was born gay" similar to saying "I was born a piano player"?

Question

If in all living memory you felt gay, why does that necessarily have to predicate you were born that way.

Is the idea that there may have been a change somehow demeaning to you?

I don't get it but interested if you do.

Answer 1

I know I studied relentlessly to become a homosexual.

Answer 2

Why can't someone be born with musical talent? Some have an ear for music and the agility to translate what they feel into music beyond what can be learned by practice. Not everyone who picks up a paintbrush is a Rembrandt or Picasso. Not everyone who takes pen in hand is a Maya Angelou. Not everyone who picks up a chisel is an Auguste Rodin, no matter what school of art they attended or what master they studied under.

I'm not "demeaned" that my life experience might have led to my being gay. But others who have led a life similar to mine are not gay, and others who have led different lives are. It may be that some or all of us were born with a predisposition to being gay.

In any case, why are you so concerned about what leads to homosexuality but not how to create more Einsteins, Voltaires or Gershwins? If you're so sure that experience is the key, how much have you donated this year to the arts or to arts scholarships? Do you even bother to attend high school concerts or plays to encourage young performers? Put your actions where your obsessions are.

Answer 3

The reason people say that they were "born gay" is because they don't want people to think that they had a choice. You can't be born a piano player because that is something that must be learned. Even the most brilliant piano player in the world had to at least learn the basics. But, nobody had to teach these people to be gay. They had a feeling and a drive inside them to be with people of their own gender in a sexual way, much the same way heterosexuals feel a desire and drive to be with people of the opposite gender.

So, they say they were born gay to emphasize the idea that this was not a choice that they made. Being gay is a very hard life in that they are not excepted in many situation. So, they try ot take the blame from themselves and make it clear that this is not something that they can control.

Answer 4

Actually you would be born a piano player as well. Your entire base personality is formed by the time you are 5 years old and is highly subjective of brain activity. I just recently did a thesis on left vs right brain thinking. Way out of my field because I am in arts, and it was arts specific.

But yes people differ in a lot of ways, and yes you are born that way. There is a huge difference in left vs right children, even more-so in left handed vs right handed vs sides of the brain, but I am not going to transcribe my entire paper here.

But that aside the core is this, the active parts of your brain dictate artistic abilities. A piano player, as you used as an example would have a dominant right hemisphere, while something like a banker would have a heavy left.

It is a lot more detailed than that but I think I would lose you at some point. Either way I got an 85% on my thesis so somebody must have agreed with me.

Answer 5

For starters piano playing is a skill, you have to learn how to do it, a gay virgin without even basic knowledge of sex, homosexual or heterosexual, is still gay.

If someone can't remember being straight then they most likely never were, ever. The assumption that all people are naturally straight is completely arbitrary and baseless. Its a sort of common sense explanation of what sex is for (reproduction) that doesn't pan out in the real world, with wild animals or with human beings.

The thing is if people are not born gay, then they are probably not born straight either. If you want to argue that everyone is born bisexuality, or pansexual, or polymorphous perverse, then I have more respect for that opinion, I don't agree with that opinion, but it at least makes a kind of sense.

Answer 6

Maybe similar to "I was born TO be a piano player".
(Of course the adult version of the piano player would be saying this)
But then again, not even that, because we are talking about sexuality which is not a choice. The Piano player still has a choice. A homosexual cannot turn off his or her attraction to the same sex. I suppose though if someone was born to play the piano they would feel as though they have to play to be who they are.

Answer 7

No. I was born gay, and I am not a piano player. Playing the piano is a talent. Being gay is a personality/relationship thing, not a talent. Although there ARE some people who are VERY talented at being gay XD

Answer 8

Scientific researchers who specialize in human sexuality have shown that homosexuality is linked to biology and genetics. Piano playing ability has not been linked to biology and genetics.

An October 2004 scientific research publication stated that scientists have found that women tend to have more children when they inherit the same genetic factors linked to homosexuality in men & that this fertility boost more than compensates for the lack of offspring fathered by gay men and keeps the “gay” genetic factors in circulation; a 2005 study reported genetic scans showing a clustering of the same genetic pattern among gay men on three chromosomes; a study published in Human Genetics in February 2006 found extreme differences in X chromosome inactivation in mothers of gay sons and mothers whose sons were not gay; and another 2006 scientific study found that a man's likelihood of being gay rises with the number of older biological brothers even if gay men were raised away from their biological families.

Answer 9

no. its proven that being gay is genetics. (that is why doctors are saying they can tell what sexual orientation babies are before they are even born). you cannot have "piano player" in ur genes, but you can have creativity and coordination. being gay isnt a hobby, or a lifestyle (well maybe its a lifestyle, but its not a chosen one). people also dont choose to be gay. if they did then i suppose they wouldnt hide it and there would not be any "in the closet gays".

1. you can choose to be gay just like you can choose to be tall.
2. gay people are attracted to all people of the same sex just the way all straight people are attracted to everybody of the opposite sex.
3. you can choose to be gay the same way you can choose who your parents are, and whether you want to be born or not.
4. gay people choose their sexuality the same wa they choose their race.
5. homosexuality is a choice just like mental retardation is.
6. gay people choose to be gay the way a tree chooses to be a tree.

Answer 10

It's not the same to me. I didn't have to "learn" to be gay, it came naturally. But I did have to learn how to play the drums; and I did have to learn how to ride a motorcycle. And I had a choice of what instrument to learn. And I had a choice of whether or not to ride a motorcycle.
I did NOT have a choice in loving women, I tried to date guys and I couldn't do it. I like and love women. It's who I am, it's how I've always been, it's not a choice.

Whether or not I was born this way is a moot point.... it IS who and how I am..... I don't really care why.

Answer 11

No. There is no skill development with a sexual orientation. You are born that way, with the brain and hormone development associated with your particular orientation. No one is actually "born a piano player." It takes training.

I'm going to have a *drink* even though this isn't R & S.