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1"No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the LORD.

2 "No one born of a forbidden union may enter the assembly of the LORD. Even to the tenth generation, none of his descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD."

(Deuteronomy 23:1-2)

2007-12-20 12:53:44 · 15 answers · asked by NHBaritone 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

John W: What are you smoking?

2007-12-20 13:00:53 · update #1

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John W changed his answer. His original answer (that prompted my earlier comment) was as follows:

The speech of men reflect the state of their hearts:

"The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned" (vs. 35-37).

Do not dismiss such lapses as merely "careless words", for "out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks." Rather, seek help from the Lord, by His Spirit, to heal your heart, and purify your mind, so that what comes out of your mouth may be pure grace.

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2007-12-20 13:07:46 · update #2

15 answers

It means just what it says.

There are about a million other sins that you could also be worried about. Or a million other rules and regulations and traditions you can concern yourself with.

You are trying to set a trap because you think you are wise. However you are trapped because you are foolish.

So are the ways of the Lord.

Nothing changes the fact that we are all sinners, in need of a savior.

God Bless You



Was a mistake... a copy/paste from a few answers back.

But thank you for advertising that pearl for all of your friends!

Good job evangelist! There's hope for you yet! ><>

God Bless you a second time!

2007-12-20 12:58:52 · answer #1 · answered by John W 6 · 3 6

I don't think JohnW should have changed his answer, for although he mis-pasted it was quite apt even if you cannot understand it, still very apt.

Your speech being:

"What is God's meaning in these Biblical passages?" (in reference to Deuteronomy 23:1-2)

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"John W: What are you smoking?"


It doesn't matter what the Bible says, it matters most how God works through you.

Your first question shows that you distrust the Bible, but why would a self proclaimed atheist ever not be trying to discredit the Bible with their questions. Don't know why a conscious atheist would need to diligently antagonize God. (That has more to do with the angst for your upbringing)

With your second question you have judged JohnW. Could it be because of what he had pasted?

" Do not dismiss such lapses as merely "careless words", for "out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks." Rather, seek help from the Lord, by His Spirit, to heal your heart, and purify your mind, so that what comes out of your mouth may be pure grace."

Either way your angst will continue to amuse as such until you abandon it/ (submit to it).

2007-12-20 15:52:48 · answer #2 · answered by wise1 5 · 0 0

I don't - and this is my personal belief - think "God" meant anything in those passages; they were written by Deuteronomists during or after the reign of King Josiah.

The irony about the second one is that it would have excluded the whole line of Kings from entering the Temple which they built, (cf David's Moabite ancestry). The Deuteronomists were fiercely about keeping the Temple in Jerusalem - both before and after the exile - and that was dependent on the people's strict obedience to the Law, and the worship only of YHWH. But it's fair to say that this law - like many of the laws - were selectively if ever enforced.

The first point was a proscription based on temple practices in other deities' temples - as many of the proscriptions in Deuteronomy are. It is part of the larger idea that only a "whole person" was worthy to enter into the sacred space of YHWH. Even amputees and disabled people were excluded.

Maybe this is one of the reasons why Jesus' ministry was so tuned in to the sick and the "lame" and the "lepers" - all who would have been, like himself if the law was strictly enforced, excluded from temple worship.

Peace to you.

2007-12-20 14:51:21 · answer #3 · answered by Orpheus Rising 5 · 0 0

Before Jesus was crucified God inhabited the Holy of Holies in the temple, and those who served the temple had strict rules they had to follow that kept the corruption of the world away from where the spirit of God dwelt.

There was a veil that was, I believe, 12 inches thick between the inner court and the Holy of Holies. The high priest would go into the inner most sanctum only once a year, to sprinkle the blood of atonement on the mercy seat, which was on the top of the ark of the covenant. I say all that to make the point, that when Jesus was crucified and when he gave up the ghost, the veil of the temple was rent in two from top to bottom by God, signifying that the way to the most holy was open.

The rules that governed temple service don't apply anymore, because the blood of Jesus cleanses his people completely and we serve in newness of life now and not in the oldness of the letter..

2007-12-20 13:10:55 · answer #4 · answered by hisgloryisgreat 6 · 0 1

a lot in the old testament was based on old societal traditions. When Jesus came and provided a means for all (not just God's original chosen people) to enter heaven he also changed a lot of the rules so not all you read in the old testament still stands. Also, it is all in context. Some of our laws today would sound rather bizarre to people of a long ago era.

2007-12-20 13:06:42 · answer #5 · answered by ANicS 1 · 0 2

These are Old Testament Passages and, as such, are out of step with Christ's teaching.

Jesus actually baptised a eunuch after he rose from the dead.

Nor would someone born out of wedlock be refused entry to God's Kingdom.

2007-12-20 13:04:16 · answer #6 · answered by StretfordEnder 7 · 2 3

I think the assembly of the Lord in this context means the priesthood

2007-12-20 13:00:13 · answer #7 · answered by Wonderwall 4 · 7 1

Who cares? It's all nonsense. But, don't you just love that "Even to the tenth generation..." business? Man, talk about hanging on to a grudge.
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2007-12-20 13:12:00 · answer #8 · answered by YY4Me 7 · 0 2

That is talking about the qualifications for the priests..not to get into heaven.

2007-12-20 13:28:14 · answer #9 · answered by PROBLEM 7 · 2 0

Thank the lord for the new testament!!!!!!!!!!!

2007-12-20 13:02:58 · answer #10 · answered by chersa 4 · 3 2

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