Christians who do not believe in the Trinity because it doesn't "make sense":?

Question

why do you feel the essence of the nature of God must make perfect sense to your human sensibilities?

do you also reject Jesus' and the disciples' miracles, raising of the dead and healing of the sick, etc., because if no human could perform them, how could it be true?

Cap'n, I'm not evangelizing. This is a question to those on these boards who say they don't believe in the Trinity because it doesn't make sense to them. I just want to know why they feel the nature of God must be in human terms. I would like someone to explain that to me to my satisfaction.

Answer 1

Fantastic question! It is simply ludicrous to believe that we are able to comprehend the full essence of God.

What kind of God would he really be if he was that simple?

Just consider for a moment the fact that he is outside of time. Figure that one out and get back to me.

I fully believe the Trinity can be easily supported from the real scriptures. It is never fully explained but we are told certain aspects.

Consider how a parent explains a very complex concept to a 3-5 year old child. They simply do not have the ability to process abstract information. Why would we be so arrogant as to believe it is not the same with God?

Answer 2

There are just too many scriptures at the end of Christs ministry, when he pleads with the Father. His pleading with the father is what really makes no sense. If He is the Father, then why plead with him? There is just no logic to it. Also we know that God, is the father of Jesus, so if you believe in the trinity, you believe that Jesus is his own father- he Fathered himself.

I get what you are saying about the Miracles, but this is where faith comes in really. He is a God and he can make these things happen.

I think much of the Christian world has been taught that God is confusing and incomprehensible and that we should not try to understand him- just accept Him as our Master and do His will. That makes it hard to grasp the alternate idea that maybe there is some logic to God and his existence.

It is the same way that I believe in the creation over Evolution and Big Bang, because the Creation is a whole lot more logical to me that the other two theories.

Miracles are just different to me. The miracles were performed to help people believe in God and in the Deity of Jesus. They were performed to confirm that He is the Son of God. There was a purpose for them.

I guess the only way to know for sure, is to ask the Lord. If you ask in Faith and open your mind to the answers the Lord wants you to have, He will testify to you if the Trinity is correct or not. He will show you the way.

Answer 3

The Trinity, while alluded to in the Old Testament, is clarified in the New Testament, but the JWs have more of a Jewish concept of Jehovah with adaptations of the New Testament to fit this one-God view. Since they believe that Jesus could not have been God, they fit this a priori view by changing meanings to remain consistent, and reify "Son of God" to mean "not God." Same thing for the Holy Spirit, a force, not a person of the Trinity (although I haven't figured out yet how a "force" can be grieved or blasphemed against). And Thomas' confession would have been either a mistake by Thomas or he split the confession between Jesus and Jehovah.

Answer 4

First off, your question is not phrased very well if you aim, as any believer of anything should, to win souls to your cause. Who would want to be known to believe in something that doesn't make sense? If you are incapable of making sense of something you believe is essential to your eternal well-being, you either need to do a little more research or believe something else.

Suffice it to say, if you really want to win souls to your cause, don't fight so hard for something so pointless. On a continuum of moral threats, is someone who believes that Christ is the second greatest being in all existence and who has been imbued buy the Almighty with authority over all created things, RATHER than God Himself going to NOT do what he says? Such persons would seem to be the least of the problems facing any Christian, whatever stripe he paints himself.

Answer 5

The trinity doesn't make sense because there are sooo many biblical references that inherently disprove it. The only way I can understand it is if I accepted that someone lied to me, and i am not willing to accept that.

The concept of the trinity has been skewed. It was not originally intended to imply that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost were all the same God, just that they were inseparable. You can't have a church of the Father, a church of the Son and a church of the Holy Ghost. If you worship one, you worship them all. That does not mean that they are the same God, or that they are all co-equal and co eternal. In the bible, it says that Jesus was God's first creation. When Jesus says "I and the father are one" he is saying that he is not replacing Him, they are together.

The trinity I understand fine, but it's a wrong concept.

Answer 6

I doesn't make sense and is confusing to me. I agree with the first poster, God is not a God of confusion; and when I ask people to explain, they talk about apples, water or something like that. I would love to get a few answers about the scriptures that say to me that they are separate people.

Answer 7

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

1 John 5:7

and these three are one=Trinity

I just answered this 5 minutes ago

Answer 8

first I was raised Methodist and my husband was Catholic so I am very familiar with the trinity and there is no Bible for it
The Bible is very clear there is One God and it was that God that robe (manifest) in flesh of a babe and it was God who walked among us, that is what Emanuel "God with Us"
it is Simple Jesus is God

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD

Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

to name only a few that very clearly tell of One God

Answer 9

John 10:25 Jesus answered, "I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in my Father's name speak for me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are one."

I don't know a better answer for those who do not see God in Jesus.

Answer 10

Isaiah 48:
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Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

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Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.

Revelation 1:
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, ...
14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
......
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen

Who needs more?