Where in the Hebrew Scripture does it say that the wage of sin is death??

Question

Where does this concept come from? I don't see it in the Hebrew Scripture(Old Testament). In fact, there are examples from the Bible that teach the exact opposite. For instance, King David was forgiven by God for his many sins, including murder and adultery. What gives?

Please use the HEBREW SCRIPTURES as a proof text. I know Pauls opinion on sin.

Ezekiel 18 goes on to say, "....if he walks in (L)My statutes and My ordinances so as to deal faithfully--(M)he is righteous and will surely (N)live," declares the Lord GOD."

Since this concept is not found in the Old Testament, is Paul just giving his own commentary on the Bible???

Dreamdre, Paul is constantly quoting from the Hebrew Scripture to support his writings. The problem is, when you look up the Old Testament verses that he quotes and the concepts that he uses, they are either taken out of context or missquoted.
Example: Hebrews 10:7 & Psalms 40:6
-Paul missquotes Psalms in order to inject his theology(in my opinion). Read it and see for yourself.

Answer 1

"Behold, all souls are Mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is Mine The soul who sins will die. "

Ezekiel 18:4

Answer 2

It sounds to me, like you are trying to dismiss Jesus and the New Testament. What gives with that?

EDITED FOR JONNY: A wage is a payment that must be paid,,,the payment for sinning is death....that is simple enough for a child to understand,,,it is the spirit of the law and not the letter of the law that is sometimes used in the New Testament,,,,We are under Grace.....Paul did not add or take away,,,he merely put in a form that those around him could understand,,,you don't talk to children in the same way you talk to an adult,,,and these people were babes in Christ,,

This is what Jesus criticized the Pharisees for doing,,they were using the letter of the law against people without understanding the spirit of the law...in other words,,,they were well versed in scripture and could quote it exactly, but they didn't understand what they were quoting...they missed the whole point,,,

Answer 3

The first disobedience carried the warning:

Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Then there's:

Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Ezekiel 18:20-21 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

That's just a couple of the many - I hope they helped.

Peace.

Answer 4

Romans 6: 23For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.

Explaining how the first man’s actions affected his offspring, the Bible says: “That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned.” This clearly shows that death came as a punishment for disobedience to God the Creator. Disobedience to God is sin. And, “the wages sin pays is death.”—Romans 5:12; 6:23. However the remedy is given in that scripture at Romans6: 23 too,...."but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.

Answer 5

oldguy 63 is right. Hell is never-ending death. The problem with people understanding some parts of the Bible is because some parts are written on our level and some on God's. They are written on our level so that we can understand it and they are written on God's level so we can see things from His perspective. The difficulty is knowing the difference between the two. We think of life as a beating heart, breathing air, etc. and death as the cessation of these things. However, since God is not physical He does not share this viewpoint at all, else He would consider Himself dead. Instead the Bible presents Him as the source and sustainer of life. If He is the source and sustainer of life, then from His perspective, death would be separation from Him and this is what Hell is. In my opinion this makes the God of the Bible amazingly merciful. While gods in some other religions insist that people be forever reborn until they accept some enlightenment, the Biblical God allows people to reject Him and then respects their decision by giving them a universe in which He will not interfere. He even warns them that since He is the source of goodness, that a universe separate from Him cannot contain goodness. Therefore, the inhabitants will war and fight until they turn it into a fiery wasteland. But if that is what they want then they are free to accept it. Since He won't interfere they can even try to prove Him wrong by working together and making it a paradise. I would tell these people Godspeed, but they wouldn't want it. Instead good luck in making Hell a paradise.

Answer 6

"What gives" is that the Hebrew Scriptures don't give the whole picture. Yes, the wages of sin is death BUT the gift of God is eternal life. (Romans 3:23) If you confine your reading to the Old Testament you won't get what the whole thing is really about.

Answer 7

Romans 6:23 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
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23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in[a] Christ Jesus our Lord.

Answer 8

Romans 6:23- For the wages of sin is death: but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. KJV

It's the last verse in the 6th chapter in Romans. Try http://www.biblegateway.com/ also, you can use it like a concordance, just type in a keyword like death and it will give you every verse in the bible that has that word in it! Good Luck!

Answer 9

In the Old Testament look at Ezekiel 18:4 and in the New Testament look at Romans 6:23


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Answer 10

*** kl chap. 6 pp. 57-58 pars. 11-12 Why Do We Grow Old and Die? ***

Eve looked at the tree again, and its fruit now seemed especially desirable. So she took the fruit and ate it. Later, her husband willfully joined her in this sinful act of disobedience to God. (Genesis 3:6) Although Eve was deceived, both she and Adam supported Satan’s scheme to rule the human race. In effect, they became his accomplices.—Romans 6:16; 1 Timothy 2:14.

12 Adam and Eve had to face the consequences of their actions. They did not become like God, with special knowledge. Instead, they felt ashamed and hid themselves. Jehovah called Adam to account and pronounced this sentence: “In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:19) “In the day” that our first parents ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, they were sentenced by God and died from his standpoint. Then they were expelled from Paradise and began their descent into physical death.

Answer 11

Well I think it is implied at least in the Genesis story where the clear result of eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was "you will surely die." And there was no mention of them dying before that, or if they didn't disobey, but the suggestion is that if they hadn't, they would have gone on living happily forever, more or less. That is where I think it comes from.