I believe that He has always existed and was always GOd.
2007-12-20 04:55:11 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
If you believe He was created instead of eternal and if you believe He wasn't always God- doesn't this make your belief different than Christianity?
2007-12-20 04:56:33 · update #1
Cattie- I think you are confused. He isn't called the first creation. He is called the first born of creation- the first to rise from the dead- the first ressurected.
2007-12-20 05:10:44 · update #2
FIrst-born also signifies His preeminence. He became Son when He became incarnate- but He has always been God.
2007-12-20 05:17:31 · update #3
Dave- you say He wasn't created other LDS say He was created. WHich of these views represents the LDS church.
I was LDS--- right now I am using the approach of asking questions to stimulate dialogue and denominiational differences without bashing. Would you prefer that I go back to bashing?
2007-12-20 06:29:26 · update #4
I mean show denominational differences- not stimulate denominational differences.
2007-12-20 06:30:06 · update #5
I also mean Bro. G. not Dave. But, Bro G., is your name Dave? You remind me of a Dave I know.
2007-12-20 06:31:23 · update #6
If you were LDS, you don't know LDS doctrine that much. Read D&C 93. We ourselves me and you have existed for eternity as well as God The Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have existed forever. We existed as intelligences before the world was and before we were spirits. We aren't created nor can we be created. We aren't androids or robots.
Jesus Christ is our elder brother in the pre existance.
He was never created nor were we. We didn't become spirits by sexual matters, but by the power of God the Father. The father of all spirits good and bad. When he became divine, I don't know, but he did die for my sins and your sins and everybody elses sins and is my Lord and Savior.
Gluehand did a good answer too. God the Son did help in making this world out of pre existing matter. Elements are eternal too...They can't be created.
Edit: No I am not a Dave in RT or VT *LOL* sorry
2007-12-20 06:22:12 · answer #1 · answered by Brother G 6 · 4⤊ 0⤋
He was created, but He was the first creation. He also existed before His spirit body was created. We all did. We were intelligences. That means we have always been too, just in a different form then we were before we were born, and now that we have a body.
We believe that Christ was organized before we were, and that He is the one who created the earth, with direction from Father.
We don't believe in the trinity. We believe in the Godhead- The Father, Son and Holy Ghost being three separate and distinct beings. Christ is the Son, the first of creation. So yes, He always was, but just not in the form He is now.
*EDIT***
He always was the Son of God. We all are children of God. He didn't "become" the Son of God after He was born, He always was the Son of God.
2007-12-20 13:27:30 · answer #2 · answered by odd duck 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
We believe Christ is a fully separate being from God. He is his son created by God, just like us. But then We should define "created." We all have existed forever in both directions. Only in different forms. We believe that we all started as intelligences in the universe (a soul if you will or potential). God then gave us a spirit body and that included Christ our Savior. So to answer your question. Both. God created him, though Christ has always been eternal.
P.S. I'm not saying God created Christ as a whole. I'm saying God created his spiritual and physical bodies. That's why we should define what the Asker's meaning of "created" that she is intending. Which, is what Brother G is also saying below. Sorry for the confusion there. :)
2007-12-20 13:00:12 · answer #3 · answered by GluedHands 5 · 10⤊ 1⤋
He has always existed. He was not "created" as some claim that Mormons believe. Christ did come to the earth to receive physical body (like we all do). He received that physical body as a neborn babe, like we all do. But Christ's spirit was alive before that.
Mormons believe that we are all eternal, that each person has a spirit body and now a physical body. We also believe that the "intelligences" we all have is eternal and not created.
2007-12-21 12:49:01 · answer #4 · answered by Kerry 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well, he's the son of God the Father--so, I guess he was created by God in the sense that he was begotten by God, literally.
But existed for eternity--sure, I believe that too--I mean, how long is eternity? It's longer than we can fathom. But no matter how long it has been, God existed previous to this.
2007-12-20 14:33:22 · answer #5 · answered by colebolegooglygooglyhammerhead 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I'm not real sure on this. But I think they do something similar to the whole trinity thing. Jesus was both the son of God, and the Lord, or something. They do accept the New testament after all. They just think they have a new New testament.
But what makes someone a Christian is their acceptance of Jesus as the Lord. That is it. After that, you have to have denominations to distinguish any other belief.
2007-12-20 12:59:46 · answer #6 · answered by Take it from Toby 7 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Can I answer by saying Both?
Let me explain. I believe that Christ was organized by our Heavenly Father, just as our Heavenly Father organized or created all of us, spiritually. And that Christ was the first that Heavenly Father organized spiritually. We are told that "Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be." and that man's spirit was organized from this intelligence. So even though intelligence always was, and always will be, Heavenly Father organized that intelligence first into Christ, then into other things like us, the planets, etc. So Christ always was because that's the nature of intelligence, and yet He was the first to be organized so you could say that he was the first to be created or formed from that intelligence as well.
EDIT: I just read gluedhands answer. Yes, I agree with him. Maybe my answer can just be supplemental to his.
2007-12-20 13:25:33 · answer #7 · answered by Tonya in TX - Duck 6 · 4⤊ 1⤋
He is the Son of God- therefore, he was created by God, his father.
AM- We don't believe in the three in one Trinity- we believe that God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost are three separate and distinct individuals united in purpose, it is called the Godhead.
2007-12-20 13:05:03 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
John 1:1-5
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
2007-12-20 12:59:55 · answer #9 · answered by guitarrman45 7 · 2⤊ 3⤋
Whether Jesus is a creature or whether he is God strikes me as one of those nits of theology that have nothing to do with how one acts. If holding one "belief" or another about the divinity of Jesus doesn't change the way you act or think outside of the idea itself, it can't be of much significance as far as one's being "Christian" goes.
There is no reason that Jesus can't be both created and eternal. Your limited human mind cannot comprehend things like eternity.
2007-12-20 13:02:20 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋