2007-12-20
02:41:02
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Tobby, can you back that up?
2007-12-20
03:04:02 ·
update #1
Tobby, rethoric rethoric rethoric
2007-12-20
16:44:32 ·
update #2
Mosaich Now; I did not give you a thumbs down. I wanted to email you, but you do not allow it. I do not necessarily disagree with you, jed, Ebeddily and the others who said Yes and showed verses from either Daniel or Thessalonians showing evidence that there may be, at the least, an altar and a resumption of the daily sacrifices. I am surprised no one referred to the Temple Mount Fatihful who already have a cornerstone cut and are in the process of training Levites for the Temple service.
http://templemountfaithful.org/
If work actually begins on a new Temple, I seriously doubt that it will be completed before the prophesied destruction ushering in the return of the Messiah which we long for happens, indeed it may be one of the sign that hastens that day.
However, it could be that the propehcy is dual, as so many are, and has more than one meaning. The daily sacrifiec mentioned in Daniel could be the prayers of the saints who will be removed to a place of safety........
2007-12-22
07:37:58 ·
update #3
....before the coming day of the Lord.
The man of sin, or lawlessness as the NIV has it, most definetly has been revealed, and continues to be revealed, if the Church of God is considered as the Temple of God.
Again, I do not disagree with what you are saying. I might have taken a less confrontational approach than you have if I had investigated the askers Q&A's before answering (something I habitiually do).
2007-12-22
07:43:56 ·
update #4
If that is a legitamaite question and you desire to know the truth then go to the book of Daniel and look for yourself, I am sure you will understand that when Daniel foresees the reign of him who would sit in the "holy temple" portraying himself as G-d actually validates that argument. The one above me gave you a correct interpretation on the subject. If the unholy person that these books are reffering about is a man which will sit in the temple of G-d portraying himself to be G-d why mention the holy temple if it is not going to be errected I don't think you can extrapulate a metaphor from these stories.
aditional details---------Since I recieved a thumbs down I'd like to know your side of the story as to what you think will take place.
EDIT------ebediley nice quote!
2007-12-20 02:56:42
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answer #1
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answered by Emuna bi'Hashem 3
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The false messiah mentioned in 2 Thessalonians is sitting in the "temple of God". To me this seems to indicate the temple is there before messiah returns.
2 Thessalonians 2:3-8
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.
2007-12-20 21:41:29
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answer #2
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answered by Obed (original) 6
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Odd, I thought I would find it in Revelation.
I found a verse in 2 Thessalonians 2:4, which says,
"Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God."
Revelation 13:6 mentions also how he will blaspheme the tabernacle. Verse 7 is a verse that I have yet to hear any Preacher comment on.
Anyway, the prophecy mentions a temple, so there must be a temple yet to be built. To gain the full understanding of the verse, please read the entire chapter 4. This tells an order of events, when the evil one will appear.(vs.3)
2007-12-20 10:55:54
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answer #3
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answered by Jed 7
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At yr 3460, 1804 yrs after flood, 907 yrs after Moses died, there's no 420 yr old temple built by Solomon, now dead 391 years, no Judah kings, the Promised Land is desolate, all captive to Babylon world Empire #3, 606 B. C.
2Ki.8,27-30; 2Chr.26:20-23; BOOKS BEING DONE: Jeremiah 25:12; 52:31-34; Lamentations, Ezekiel 1:2; Daniel 9:2,24-27; 10:1; [ 633 ], 606 B.C. [ 533 ].
Matt.1:1-17;
Cyrus Ezra 1:1-3; in world Empire # 4, 536 B. C. Isa.44:28; 827 to 714 B. C.
Temple rebuilt.
At yr 2513, O.T. 1110 yrs, 39 books, many write, done 443 before Christ.
Books: Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi 443 B. C.
Greece world Empire #5, 336 B. C.
Temple redone by Herod for 46 years and Jesus saw it John 3:19,20;
Jesus ascended in yr 33, the temple was destroyed in yr 70 as to history.
There is no prophecy for another temple for the 2nd coming of Christ Jesus.
2007-12-20 11:30:21
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answered by jeni 7
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Daniel 9:20-27 the "seventy weeks" of Daniel. 69 weeks have already gone by. We are now in a "parenthesis" or a holding pattern until the 'times of the Gentiles' be finished.
In v. 27 the Anti-Christ desecrates the temple- ---there is no temple! It must be rebuilt before this can happen.
For hundreds of years many scoffers said that the Bible can not be true because there is "no" Israel for all these prophesied events to take place in. In 1948 Israel just popped up on the world scene!?????
2007-12-20 10:49:03
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answer #5
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answered by Poor Richard 5
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Oh the temple is being built, and when you say "Jewish" that is only "one" tribe(Judah) of the 12 tribes. Most people forget about the other tribes.
But many err when they say a "physical temple" has to be built. Because the temple in the end times is "Spiritual temple", with Christ the fountain stone.
1Cr 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Cr 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
Zec 4:9 The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you.
2007-12-20 10:50:42
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answer #6
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answered by Theophilus 5
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No, After Jesus left and came to power in Heaven, the temple was destroyed. There will not be any rebuilding of the temple. Rather the temple is a shadow of things fullfilled in Jesus, Look at Hebrews to see how the workings of the temple are fullfilled.
2007-12-20 17:32:12
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answer #7
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answered by mlcros 5
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Ezekiel chapters 47;and48, describes a Temple that hasn't been built as yet.
2007-12-20 11:06:50
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answered by Bob d 5
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Jesus venerated the Temple by going up to it for the Jewish feasts of pilgrimage, and with a jealous love he loved this dwelling of God among men. The Temple prefigures his own mystery. When he announces its destruction, it is as a manifestation of his own execution and of the entry into a new age in the history of salvation, when his Body would be the definitive Temple.
The mission of Christ and the Holy Spirit is brought to completion in the Church, which is the Body of Christ and the Temple of the Holy Spirit. This joint mission henceforth brings Christ's faithful to share in his communion with the Father in the Holy Spirit. The Spirit prepares men and goes out to them with his grace, in order to draw them to Christ. The Spirit manifests the risen Lord to them, recalls his word to them and opens their minds to the understanding of his Death and Resurrection. He makes present the mystery of Christ, supremely in the Eucharist, in order to reconcile them, to bring them into communion with God, that they may "bear much fruit."
It is through the Holy Catholic Church that the new jerusalem, Heaven on earth, the temple of God dwelling in the hearts of men is acheived. Jesus Christ, the head of the Church, precedes us into the Father's glorious kingdom so that we, the members of his Body, may live in the hope of one day being with him for ever.
As Lord, Christ is also head of the Church, which is his Body. Taken up to heaven and glorified after he had thus fully accomplished his mission, Christ dwells on earth in his Church. The redemption is the source of the authority that Christ, by virtue of the Holy Spirit, exercises over the Church. "The kingdom of Christ [is] already present in mystery", "on earth, the seed and the beginning of the kingdom".
2007-12-20 11:00:28
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answer #9
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answered by Gods child 6
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The more prevalent view is that the Messiah will come first and usher in the building and rededication of the Temple.
2007-12-20 10:45:09
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answered by mzJakes 7
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