What is the appeal of being "saved"? (Serious question read details)?

Question

I hear so many say I need to be saved from sin. What sin? A 6000 year old mistake I had no part of? Okay here is the thing. I don't believe in Original Sin. I don't think the sins of the father should fall on the son. If God is all knowing and loving WHY would be he blame me for something two people did 6000 years ago? So with out Original Sin why do I need to be saved? There is no "nice" way to ask this, but don't Christins ever sick of being told they are worthless sinners for something they had no part in? What is the appeal of being a part of this?

But what IS sin? Human nature? Why would God be mad at me for being exactly who he made me to be?
Ok my example would be, most of my "sin" in life would be in manic episodes. If you call that "free will" you know NOTHING about mental illness. So why would God be pissed at what HE MADE ME to be? This is what I don't understand. Why make humans what they are and then get pissed at them for it?

Why do people assume I am saying I have done no wrong? I have. Life is full of screw ups. That is how we learn to be better people. Do I think I need someone DEATH to cleanse me of it? No. I think I learn from it and don't do it again. It makes me a better person. Through being a better person I teach my kids. So I am still not seeing the Salvation thing. How am I to grown as a human with out mistakes?
And for the last freaking time, stop ASSUMING I didn't hand my life over to Christ. That I haven't "walked the walk". I assure you that you do NOT know my story. Don't assume you do.

Answer 1

I will sincerly attempt to answers your questions with sensitivity...

It is not that we are being held responsible for the sin committed in the Garden of Eden, rather, it was there that sin entered all of mankind. "Sin" is not limited to the listings of the 10 Commandments. Small things can be sinful also, unjustified anger, harshness, the failure to do good when we have the chance, selfishness. WHO of us is not guilty of being selfish? Surely you have on occassion felt guilty and wanted to apologize to someone......we apologize to God , (and to our loved ones as needed) seeking His forgiveness for our own sin not that of Adam and Eve.

"Sin" will dirty and soil our spirit just as sweat and grit will dirty our bodies. After a hard and 'dirty' day, isn't that cleansing shower refreshing? Doesn't it renew you, making you clean again? It is much like that when we become saved, we feel cleansed, refreshed, and new again.

No one is worthless..........no one......and I never thought of myself as being so. But I was too "dirty" to ever enter into Heaven with being cleaned by the Saviour.

Answer 2

the whole premise of christianity was to draw people away from emperor worship, and salvation from original sin is the carrot on the stick. when it became a means of social control and no longer just a rebel movement, it needed more incentive to draw in the masses, so it became obsessed with sin. it's a way of breaking the people's spirit just as much as breaking a wild horse or a slave.

i don't believe in sin as a theological principle. the assumption that we are fallen and need a god to rescue us is counter-productive to spiritual enlightenment, and draws the focus of faith off the true goal.

Answer 3

The appeal of being "saved" is that you don't have to think anymore. The answer is done, you can just sit back and relax for the rest of your life and never ask the big "what" ever again.
Being "saved" isn't for me, because I love the journey, but I can see why it's attractive to so many people in this age where we're putting in so many hours at our jobs, and have little time for personal development. It's the quick answer.

Answer 4

It's very interesting. But I think they are saying that it's impossible for any human being not to sin, so obviously, you have some sins that you need to be saved from. I don't think it's just the Original Sin. I think that's just what created "sin" in the first place, or at least let us humans realize what "sin" was. (Don't quote me on that!)

There's a theory that the Roman Catholics made up sins, and made it so humans would always and forever be sinful creatures, therefore always needing to come back to the church and beg for forgiveness. I won't say which theory, for fear of deletion.

But you know, I don't like being told I'm a sinner. I know I make mistakes, but I do my best to amend those mistakes and not make them again. And I don't need any religion to tell me to do that. All it takes is a conscious and common sense.

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Answer 5

The idea of instant salvation if you surrender is attractive because it requires nothing of the individual. There is no more worry, no more pesky thinking to be done. You literally give up. You assume you are worthy only of torment and need to be saved from yourself and the wrath of the very god who is now going to save you. In this case, salvation is a product of their submission. It ends there. Jesus did the hard part for them.

Now, for those Christians who see salvation in a more eastern way, as a kind of epiphany that sparks in you the urge to think, learn and grow, it is something else all together.
For them it is a coming into themselves and an acknowledgment that while they cannot always be perfect in action and thought, they can still pick themselves up and move on in grace. For those, I think salvation is a process. It is still a gift from Jesus, but not in as literal a sense.

Answer 6

I'm a christian in the fact that I believe in god. But I don't necessarily understand original sin. Yes two people a really long time ago sinned and I guess that that was the original. But everbody today is sinning too. I think of being saved as being forgiven for YOUR sin, not for adam and eve's. And if you believe in god and believe the bible than you probably believe you need to be saved to go to heaven. I see it as excepting Jesus and excepting that he died on the cross for your sins, not for your ancient ancestors because your not perfect. Eve ate an apple she wasn't supposed to.. I'm pretty sure most people today have done worse than that.

Answer 7

It is a very good sign that now you are questioning the belief that has been handed down to you by the society. You are attempting to challenge this religious conditioning in which you find yourself entrapped. The greatest sin perpetrated upon humanity by the Church is the concept of 'original sin' and slavation through the saviour 'Christ'. These concepts were introduced by the Church to keep a vast number of adherents in perpetual 'delusion' in order to maintain the position of Church as a mediator between sinful humans and God through Jesus Christ. Go to the site metahistory.org and read the pioneering work done by John Lash to destroy the false concepts imposed by Church on people to serve their selfish interests.

Answer 8

We inherited Adam's sin. This is how. Before the fall, Adam was sinless, perfect, and good (Gen. 1:31). He had a ‘good’ nature. But, after the fall, he became a sinner. His nature was changed from ‘good’ to ‘bad.’ Since we are his children, we inherit his sinful nature (Rom. 5:12). In this sense, we suffer for what Adam did; that is, he caused his descendants to have sinful natures and all of us suffer because of it. This is called original sin. It means that we have inherited a sinful nature and that all of what we are as individuals (mind, body, soul, spirit, emotions, and thought) is touched by sin. But this does not mean that we are as sinful as we can be. After all, God has written His Law on our hearts (Rom. 1:19; 2:15).

Answer 9

We are not "punished for" a sin committed by Adam and Eve. If we do have Christ, we are punished for our own sin. The idea of original sin, means that we have a fallen nature, we are born unable to keep from sinning. This becomes evident in a child as soon as they are old enough to know they are not supposed to do something, that will become the thing they want to do. I didn't have to teach my kids to lie, to try to steal the cookie on the table, to hit each other, those things came quite naturally to them! Instead I have to work very hard to teach them good! That is because they have a nature bent on sin, all people do.

Here is the thing, have you ever done wrong? Any kind of wrong? Of course! Everyone has! That is why you need to be saved.

Answer 10

It's okay. Keep trying to reason it out. But the reason why it isn't making sense to you is because you cut off the reason for it being the way it is: Original sin. But you won't allow yourself to believe it. Therefore there is no way to consider being saved by God through Jesus, you won't believe in that because to you, even IF you do wrong, you are not to be blamed! So who do you blame? You are blaming God for your sin. If you believe that God made you a sinner, then blame Him, right? So instead of believing that God will help you out of your sin, just make Him the fault of whatever you do wrong. I find this typical of females, blaming others for their faults. They have themselves high up on a pedestal, and woe to them who tell them they are wrong!

So I am saying, you are naked before God. You righteousness you have gained by your own pride. A special type of self righteousness that eliminates any fault of her own.

So, pristine one, if you are so perfect, why can't you figure it out without asking others the question? Is it my fault that you won't believe the truth even after you see it?