Would you consider this to be fair treatment?

Question

My son is in the choir at high school.They recently had their "holiday" program.I do not allow my children to take part in this program for religious reason's.Now the teacher has banned him from being in the choir.Go figure.....................

His Glory, Christ is not in this program.
"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven". I cannot take part in something that denies my Lords name to be mentioned.It used to be a Christmas Program.That was changed because they didn't want the Christ mentioned.This is the pagan holiday that everyone is talking about.

Blessed3x yes he takes part in all other programs.

Answer 1

After consulting with an attorney, they can not ban your child from the whole class because of a religious statement. I fully support and understand why you have done what you have done.
Here is the reasoning behind the illegality of it:
They can not force a student to participate in a program that defies their core beliefs. It is the same as having a student not participate in a Halloween costume program because of religious beliefs. Then punish them by failing them in the class. It is illegal.
I don't know if you approached the teacher beforehand and I would suggest at least talking with the teacher. If you have already then approach the principal and work your way up the hierarchical ladder. As a last resort, approach an attorney to get some legal recourse.

Answer 2

Acts 5:40
And to him they agreed: and when they had called the apostles, and beaten them, they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go.

It doesn't make sense does it.
If the table was turned they probably would not kick out a student if he refused if they were mentioning Christ.
People would stand up and try to say he is having others religious beliefs pushed on him.
Your son is having others religious beliefs pushed on him.

Since I have been saved I have not been a big fan of the Christmas holiday ( a little leaven,leaventh the whole lump). But I do find myself supporting the name of "Christ" in Christmas. It is very strange how worldly this holiday has become and has made the merchants rich (the love of money) with all the buying people do. Still yet Satan hates the name of Christ. He has fought it since the beginning and he will continue to do so. HE WILL DO ALL HE CAN DO TO PUT AWAY THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

You may can have him allowed back in if your take this before the school board. His religious freedom is at stake. Turn the table on them. What about his educational experience in choir the rest of the school year that he will be denied?

Luke 21:17
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

Colossians 3:17
And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Answer 3

Dont roll over and play dead about this, call Jay Sekulow at Religious liberty. He battles things like this for ppl, and usually at no charge.
PPL say holidays arent religious > HELLO PPL, this is the problem, you will still celebrate the days that others find Holy, but you take the holiness out of them, and say they are only a holiday, well get your own holidays, you athiests.
And by the way, Christmas is not Christian, it is pagan.
and this boy has every right to not participate in a pagan celebratio that is totally against his religion. This is a religious right issue, so lets get a grip. You athiests want your freedom from religion, Christianity. WEll we Chrsitains want freedom from all your nonse religion as well. Athiest is a religion of self. The only Holiday they should take as their own is April fools day. I dont call you a fool. God says call noone that, but He says what HE calls a fool, those that wont believe in Him and obey Him.
I rest my case. I pray this man calls Jay Sekulaw to battle for him about his rights. WE Christains had better stand up. How come all of Christiantiy you all try to remove, while false religions are allowed, like now our govt wants to celebrate Ramadan, a muslim Holiday. Wake up america.

Anyone ever hear of the bilderbergers, the illuminati?? YOU best all study up.
Its all coming down just as the Bible says it is.

Answer 4

So, if you normal high school teenager sings in the chorus and the music is holiday music, he will go to hell for singing it?

You're so very wrong. Music is music. If you have raised your son properly in your own religion, singing holiday music in a school activity isn't going to effect him in any way or damn him to hell for eternity.

The Choral director was right in releasing your son from the choir. He/she depends upon the participation of ALL the singers. If your son's singing is going to be censored by you, he cannot be depended upon.

How sad that you would prohibit him from doing such a pleasurable activity. You should be on your knees thanking your god that he's not involved in drugs or gangs or truancy, Instead, you are acting like a nutcase who is screwed in the head..

Answer 5

I'd suggest that you contact ths school, and request a meeting with the teacher.

If you explain that it's your choice and not your sons, some schools will allow such exceptions.

As an atheist, I've dealt with a similar problem; I prefer not to take part in the singing of religious songs. Usually, I simply do it anyway -- or in a few rare cases, discuss it with the teacher. As long as you make it clear that it's not as if he's trying to get out of the work of it, and that it truly is religious, I don't think that the school can ban the student from choir.

In fact, it's quite possibly illegal. Hence, talk to the school. If that fails, and you truly do find it necessary, your lawyer, as well.

Answer 6

Is this choir part of a class or it is an extra-curricular activity? While I don't think it's fair, if the choir is a class (as mine were), on which he is graded (which we were), then the concert may be like a test (our grade actually lowered if we missed the concert), and if you won't let your son participate in the concert for religious reasons, that actually may have the same effect as opting out of the class.

So it depends on the structure of the choir.

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Answer 7

Honestly it sounds ok to me. To be part of a group like this the group has to be able to count on you. The choir can't count on your son because of you so I would exclude him also.

It's easier than trying to predict what you will object to next. A lot of people are missing the point that this was a project they were working on and your son was not going to participate.

Imagine if this were a debate club and a member refuses to participate in some debates. How do you predict when you can count on this member?

You might be able to whine and get him back in but honestly your son will always have to play a roll that can easily be replaced. If I were leading this group he would never be trusted with an important roll.

Answer 8

That is how the world operates for they see anything related to Christ as foolishness. If there is a way for your son to participate in your church, that is better than participating in a secular environment. Wipe the dust off of your feet and move on to a place where He *will show up*. And pray for those that have lost the true meaning of this holy season.

God Bless You and your precious family, Don! {{{DON & FAMILY}}}

Answer 9

If your son is going to have to miss key performances due to your religious beliefs the teacher may want another person who is able to perform. Also if there are only a certain number of spaces in the choir his spot may be needed. I dont see any reason he shouldnt be able to practice with them though

Answer 10

If he was only asked not to participate in practice, then of course this is fair since you asked that he not participate. If he was booted out completely, maybe they had to make room for someone that is able to participate throughout the entire year. The choir is probably a selective group and there is probably a participation requirement.

I'm Jewish, and when a song states "Jesus is the Lord", etc., I just say something similar in that part that sounds just like it and I can still be part of the group. My mother is even in a Christian choral and she's Jewish - I think she says Cheesis or something. It's no disrespect, it's just that we wouldn't want to sing something we don't believe in. We feel it's more respectful to say Cheesis, etc. rather than say his name and not mean what we're saying.

And that's probably what your son could do if it means that much to him to be in the choir.