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Whales descending from "deer-like" mammals?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071219/ap_on_sc/whale_ancestor

And here is the "missing-link" to whales?

http://www.neoucom.edu/DEPTS/ANAT/Thewissen/whale_origins/index.html


What evidence has been presented to convince you beyond a reasonable doubt that this is factual?

2007-12-19 06:53:46 · 38 answers · asked by Dr. G™ 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

LOL Primoa!!!!

2007-12-19 06:57:31 · update #1

After two decades, I've acquired a BS in BioChemical Engineering, an MS in BioAgricultural Engineering & Food Science, and an Executive MBA. I believed anything science published based on theorems & hypotheses.

Then I ran into Jesus 2 years ago .... and He opened my spiritual eyes. All humans have the same genome, regardless of race. This applies to each animal specie, unique in genetic makeup from one another. Man can search for "missing-links" ad nauseum, for both man and animal. But the true answer lies in the Word of God - the "missing-link" for man is truly Jesus and He created us to have dominion over all animals, animals that do not evolve.

Evolution is based on a foundation of sand. God's Word is based on the foundation of The Rock, which is Christ.

I'd choose The Rock over sand. With conviction, I stand on the Word of God. Thank you all for answering!

2007-12-19 07:13:50 · update #2

006: Your words do nothing because you obviously know nothing of presciption medication. My husband is an MD. The only way to treat MRSA is IV prep Abx, vancomycin or linezolid tid.

Isn't this playtime for the kids right now?! LOL

2007-12-19 07:33:58 · update #3

LOl True Christian! And yes, Jesus, the One True Physician, took my head out of my pathetic patootie to see the truth! LOL

2007-12-19 07:40:37 · update #4

38 answers

This, too, shall pass. My husband and I had the conversation last night about how sometime in the future the theory of evolution will be laughed at as an ancient thought gone wrong. We don't KNOW much of anything right now. Everything that we THINK we know are merely the conjectures and thoughts of man. Man has made a hypothesis and is now trying to make it all fit the hypothesis he has created. God designed it all, so of course there are similarities or an artist's style/design/technique that is similar in all of His creations. Like I said, though, one day we will look back and laugh, if we aren't all too busy crying because we have been found to be a fool.

(Biology/Chemistry major that knows good science and bad science...the theory of evolution is bad science.)

2007-12-19 07:42:32 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 6

Best Answer: This, too, shall pass. My husband and I had the conversation last night about how sometime in the future the theory of evolution will be laughed at as an ancient thought gone wrong. We don't KNOW much of anything right now. Everything that we THINK we know are merely the conjectures and thoughts of man. Man has made a hypothesis and is now trying to make it all fit the hypothesis he has created. God designed it all, so of course there are similarities or an artist's style/design/technique that is similar in all of His creations. Like I said, though, one day we will look back and laugh, if we aren't all too busy crying because we have been found to be a fool.

2016-02-08 03:14:52 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

To me? None, but then I am not a paleontologist.

Did you read the last paragraph of the article? This is a hypothesis. It has yet to undergo peer review and other scientists are skeptical.

I doubt that the people proposing this consider it hard fact, but they are pointing out an interesting link. The problem is that reporters are paraphrasing and making it seem like this is harder science than it is.


Does it matter what they descended from? Since all mammals are descended from rat/possum like animals whales are too. No one is disputing that and yes I have been presented with enough facts that I have a very high level of confidence that it is real.

And what evidence do you have that your sky pixie poofed all living things into existence over a day or two?

Some words in a book do not cut it. Especially because there are lots of other creation myths that have just as much (or as little) validity as your version.


That article is a hypothesis.

Genesis 1 and 2 are a joke.

2007-12-19 07:15:48 · answer #3 · answered by Simon T 7 · 6 2

LOL Yeah, I'd heard about whales and deer-like animals before. I always thought that it was really stupid (my first thought reading stuff like that is, 'hey, your proctologist called - he found your head!'). It seems to me that some people here forget that evolution is not scientific FACT - it is a THEORY and it is bad science to put forth a theory as a fact. To my mind, it just always made more sense to believe that an Intelligent Designer created everything in its current state of complexity rather than believing that we changed slowly over billions of years.


This one is for Bill:
Look, it's similarities between the 2 - Why don't you get off your horse and begin to explain why these 2 VERY unique individuals are so similar in genetic make up.

How about this idea: they were made by the same Creator, and they both live on the same planet breathing the same oxygen (whales do not have gills - they breathe air too remember!). Similar body structure does not mean that one came from another. It can just mean that they were made by the same Person. Why is that so hard to wrap your mind around? Why are you soooo willing to believe that we came from nothing but you sneer at the idea of an almighty Being creating everything?

2007-12-19 07:28:03 · answer #4 · answered by Blue Eyed Christian 7 · 4 2

First you start from the premise that whales did not just magically appear. Then you look at the bone structures of whales and all animals. You begin to notice similarities between the first whales and mammals that lived along the coast just before whales come onto the scene. You've always wondered how whales, being mammals, ended up in the ocean when it was obvious from the fossil records that all previous mammals lived on land. Now, if you amass enough bones that show similarities, you feel confident to put forth the hypothesis that these deer-like coastal dwellers began to spend more and more time in the water and eventually began to live there full time. When you collect enough fossils, you are able to chart the changes in bone structure and "glimpse" the evolution of a species. Very interesting. And, to my mind, way more plausible than magic.

2007-12-19 07:08:27 · answer #5 · answered by zero 6 · 5 2

i'm a believer of Evolution by ability of smart layout. i do no longer know that we got here from a monkey or ape, even if, i've got met some those that would make you ask your self. I do have self assurance that we developed from a decrease sort of human. it somewhat is obvious even in recorded background. In Genesis, it says that God did issues in days whether it does no longer let us know how God measures an afternoon. Our technique of measuring time is guy made. It took hundreds of years for guy-form to develope a nicely-known technique to diploma time and is predicated off earths rotation and orbit around the solar. we've no theory or is there something written indicating how God determines a minute, an hour, an afternoon, each and every week, so on etc. So, an afternoon to God would be one thousand million years to us. consequently, I stepped forward my very own theory that we've been created by ability of Evolution by way of smart layout. How he did it, I have no theory. There are merely 2 issues i know for valuable approximately God, one is that there is a God, and 2, i'm no longer him.

2016-10-08 22:34:42 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

This isn't a criminal trial, so the burden of proof (for me, at least) is only a preponderance of the evidence, not beyond a reasonable doubt.

On a long enough timeline, all mammals are related through some founding species, so I cannot be surprised if scientists claim to have found a land-based mammalian species that whales descended from. I haven't read the article yet, though, so the jury's still out as far as I'm concerned.

2007-12-19 07:03:04 · answer #7 · answered by Mr.Samsa 7 · 5 3

You have the evidence. It's a matter of interpreting the evidence. A single fossil with one key cetacean feature is not a proof. It may well be that this is the ancestor of the whales and hippos. More evidence is needed to flesh out the connection. The key is that scientists know where to look, now. They have to make the jump from Indohyus which was found in the Kashmir region of India to Pakicetids (from Pakistan).

2007-12-19 07:33:36 · answer #8 · answered by novangelis 7 · 4 2

I honestly don't know much about whale evolution, nor do I really care. I know that they are mammals and have hipbones and they same basic bone sets in their fins as other mammals hands and feet. That clearly points to us being related.

Further, I know fossils exist of transitional species that were moving into the water. That would constitute a prediction that evolution would make. How the heck does creationism account for them?

I also know that hippos have common DNA markers that put them as reasonably close relatives. There is also some commonality in their bone structure.

2007-12-19 07:03:08 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 7 2

The truth is stranger then fiction. Although I have to admit that talking snakes and men being made from dirt are pretty strange. If science seems strange to you, maybe it is a personal problem.

Evolution is a scientific theory. It has so much evidence that to deny the theory is to be ignorant, or simply deciding not to accept science. But then no creationists seem to question gravity theory?

Also, can you find a .edu website that doesn't support the whale evolution theory?

Edit: With all your biology education, I'm surprised you use the term "missing link". This has long been considered a straw man argument of a term. Also, do you also question other theories like germs, cells, molucules, and gravity?

Edit:
"006: Your words do nothing because you obviously know nothing of presciption medication. My husband is an MD. The only way to treat MRSA is IV prep Abx, vancomycin or linezolid tid."

LOL. That was his point. Bacteria is living proof of evolution.

2007-12-19 06:58:33 · answer #10 · answered by Take it from Toby 7 · 14 5

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