Is "Homosexuality a sin" REALLY a valid arguement to why they can't legally be married?

Question

I will agree that Holy Matrimony is purely with in the Christian Church. I get that. But LEGAL marriage isn't. We live in a country where ALL religions are valid and homosexuality ISN'T a sin in all faiths. So is it being a "sin" really a valid LEGAL arguement?

But realistically Ath it's not being foisted upon you unless your a homosexual. Or we are making hetro marriages illegal. If you aren't gay, how is it being "foisted" upon you? I understand it not being forced into churches and I whole heartitly agree with THAT aspect. But not the legal aspect. People are using a religous arguement for a secular law.

How is allowing people to marry granting "special rights"???????

Mellie you are a testiment to Christianity and give me faith in thier followers LOL

*sigh people people.Christinaity is NOT the only religion out there. Sin itself doesn't even exist in MY religion. So I don't have it backwards.

Answer 1

Good question - it totally made me think. And when you think about it, all people are sinners. So should anyone guilty of sin be kept from legally getting married? I don't think many people would answer that with a Yes. You have made an interesting point!

I am a Christian, I am also American - I also try to be loving, understanding and tolerant of others who are different from me.

I have a sister who is a lesbian and has been with the same female "partner" for many years - they are exceedingly decent people, loving, caring, giving, honest, hard workers, etc. etc. and so on - and they approach their relationship and their committment to each other in a stronger and emotionally healthier way than many hetero married's that I know. I have a lot of respect for them actually.

*ignores the gasps from fellow Christians* as it is not my job to judge. (and remember y'all - it's not your job to judge me either.)

EDIT: Thank you. I do try my best! LOL

Answer 2

Youre right, its not a valid argument to use religion as a reason to enforce an existing law in the US. Marriage (the term and meaning) is non-secular. The county you live in could care less who marries you; could be a ordained guy from the church of Bob, Joel Osteen, or your JW cousin, etc. It should be civil unions for all, keep same benefits we have now in marriage. Religious folk of all beliefs can opt to have an official religious ceremony afterwards.

Christians dont feel marriage has been trampled on, gays feel they are getting the same rights as everyone else, the county rakes in more money yearly in civil license fees, and the best part is we keep our blessed separation of church and state.

Answer 3

Of course it isn't a valid argument.

Who is the government to tell anyone who they may and may not commit their lives to?

athanasi..., no one is suggesting that you will be forced to marry withiun your gender. The foisting is being done by those who seek to control the lives of others based upon their own beliefs. Which best describes you?

Steve, a society is only as good as it's least protected minority. The idea of America isn't to have the majority rule, but top protect the rights of the minority. See the constitution for supporting evidence.

mzJakes, which "special rights" are you referring to? Because last I heard, they only want the same rights that the rest of us have.

searcher makes a good point. Insurance companies and any employer who considers gay employees a windfall (no FMLA, no spousal insurance, etc) are against it as well. These are not valid arguments, though. Just because something would cost you money doesn't make it wrong, just as free stuff isn't always right.

wonderful, Earth-basaed religions and atheistic religions (such as Buddhism) don't meddle in peoples private lives. There are some that don't consider it a sin.

yenrah, what other sins should we vote based on? the eating of crustaceons? Women in pants? What about the 1st commandment? Should we legislate that one in, as well? Yay theocracy!

BeQuotes, the others you mention do not involve two consenting adults, except the brother-sister thing, which would also be legal under the male-female idea. Or is that Okay with God? I know the Lot story supports incest, so maybe we should legalize it based on your Bible?

Answer 4

Being taboo to a religion has nothing whatsoever to do with an issues legality. If it were, cheeseburgers would be illegal.
After all, the 10th commandment in the Book of Exodus, King James Version says;
"Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk."

The gay marriage arguments are exactly the same arguments that Christian conservatives used to prevent people of different races to marry. Marriage is a matter of states and individual rights.

Answer 5

Absolutly not!! As pointed out, how many of us sin...all of us are sinners according to the Christian teachings. Jesus came to save the sinner. Homosexuality wasn't even part of the Bible's translation until the 1960s. Many cultures have and continue to accept homosexuality as part of the human condition...something to be accepted and embraced not tolerated or hated. Nowhere does Jesus say love you neighbor except the homosexuals. Even in the Bible, it talks about treating people with respect and dignity...homosexuals are constantly having to defend thier relationships, families, and love. We are constantly attacked on the basis that our lives are sinful...yet there are many of us who are in loving committed relationships where our families are not allowed protection if something happens to one of the partners. For instance, my partner and I have 3 children. If something happens to me, our children don't go to my partner as they would if we were married, because the state doesn't recognize us as a couple and as a family. So our children will be taken from the only other parent they have ever known and given to my ailing parents, my sister or some other "family" member if my family contests my will...my partner has no rights to our children. All of this is because Christians see my lifestyle as a sin...which is the greater sin, living as a homosexual or destroying a child's life because of a religion? Funny thing, of the seven deadly sins...homosexuality is not one of them...yet gluttony, lust, pride are...I don't see them being regulated.

Answer 6

God made laws that man does not follow, so is it surprising that some would rather follow manmade laws. Personally, I do not live by the Constitution in my personal life. So, therefore, if man made a law allowing homosexuals to marry, it would not affect me. It should not be of the concern of any Christian. Most of the laws on the books are not bible based, so why should that one be? So while I oppose homosexuality, my laws are in the bible, not made by some legislature. So, you are correct the fact that it is a sin is not a valid argument for man, but it is for me.

Answer 7

ok, america as I understand it, was set up not to protect the majority, but to protect the minority.

and also to all you christians, why would you put your religious beliefs over what is morally correct??

this country was founded on freedom of choice, so why would you think that not giving these men and women thier choice is right, just because you believe they are wrong??

this whole same sex marriage issue is stupid, they arguments against it are similiar to the inter-racial marriage arguments that took place years and years ago.

hopefully we can reach the same conclusion.

people should be allowed to join themselves to anyone they want.

Love and Respect,
PW

Answer 8

I'm not so sure it is Christians that are blocking the gay marriage idea. Sure, they are a good front for it...hey they even openly accept that role. But I would look deeper into the insurance companies and what they want. Do you think they want every gay couple to be able to put their partners on their insurance policy?

I have no sources for this, just my random thought.

Answer 9

i wasn't going to answer because i don't really have anything to add except this: as hard as i try to be understanding of people's opinions, heather s, you are dead wrong. i have met cernunos, and he comes to me during sex. my god can accept me as gay, so i neither need nor want yours. i'll keep what i really want to say to you inside my head and relish it privately.

(((((daughter)))))

edit: ok, here i go again:
woefully and fearfully made is woefully and fearfully wrong. not other religion outside of abrahamic monotheism specifically mentions homosexuality. some carry cultural biases, but none have scriptural prohibitions. many pagan faiths eagerly embrace it as a sign of spiritual distinction.

Answer 10

Silly fundamentalists act as if gay couples are going to beat down their doors demanding a church wedding from them . . . . sigh . . . .