I attend a public school, and there is a printed form and an online form for the code of conduct.
As it says in the code of conduct, that there HAS to be a "Reasonable and timely notice of all rules, regulations, policies and penalties to which they may be subject."
Reccently (last Tuesday), my school decided to give detentions to ANY one seen hugging or holding hands with ANY other person.
Siblings are under fire, friends are under fire, and relationships are under fire.
It also says in the code of conduct that the "comission of sexual intercourse, rape, sodomy, or indecent exposure (moonign or like activities)." is prohibited at all times.
Theres also a site based descision making counsel made up of two parents, three teachers, and a board member for when they want to change the code of conduct.
That meeting did NOT take place when they put in this rule
Are my rights as a girlfriend, friend, and sister being violated?
Can they rightfully do this?
2007-12-18
05:02:19
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I wasn't caught doing anything. I dont use my school as my public bedroom, as some of you so blatently assumed. I was asking this question on behalf of the school, as some of the teachers don't see it fit either.
2007-12-18
12:28:02 ·
update #1
Most students were penalized AFTER school. As in, getting into cars which are owned by the student.
A kiss on the forehead, a hug, ect.
The most strict punishment we've seen thus far has been a three day suspension because of a kiss on the lips exchanged by two students inside of a car.
2007-12-18
12:31:17 ·
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Students have no rights. Sorry. As stupid as this all is, it seems legal. Maybe contact the ACLU, if you really care, and see what they have to say.
2007-12-18 05:05:58
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answered by Anonymous
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maybe you should ask yourself what it is about YOUR school that it needs explicit rules against rape, sodomy, ans sexual intercourse during school?
Has that been a problem before? What kind of kids think that is appropriate behavior?
Unless you understand the real roots of why there is even a code, then quibbling over the more minor details will get you no where.
Show that as a student body you know how to behave on your own, and rules won't be necessary.
Hint: In today's day and age of misuse of power dynamics for abuses of sexual nature in schools, it is reasonable for the school to make sure that such abusive dynamics don't exist between students, teachers, and students adn teachers together.
Do you think the teachers have an issue not being able to kiss or hug amongst themselves while at school? I doubt it but ask them.
If you want to be treated like an adult, then act like an adult.
When everyone acts like an adult predictably, then these rules will not be needed anymore.
2007-12-18 05:51:33
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answered by Barry C 6
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A school environment is not the same as your home or the mall or general public places. They have the right to impose rules as they see fit, so long as they are not illegal (like requiring conformity to a specific religion, or paying fees, etc.)
The code of conduct issues regarding timely notice is a 'courtesy' to students, not a requirment. Banning public displays of affection is well within their prerogative and authority on school property. Minors do not have an inherant 'right' to engage in non-educational activities while on school grounds.
Now, for the record, I think they have taken the issue overboard, and need to use more common sense in the rules. The proper recourse is to file a complaint with the school board and the PTA. You may want to organize a petition at the school, however, understand that they have the authority to not allow you to do that on the school grounds.
2007-12-18 05:13:31
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answered by lmn78744 7
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2016-10-08 21:06:25
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answered by ? 4
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Technically no, they are not violating your rights. However, I would press the principal to meet with you and go over why this decision was made and why it wasn't done through normal channels.
We had a similiar no contact rule when I was both a student and a teacher. I didn't get it when I was a student, but as a teacher you do see a different perspective on why it is an appropriate role. After all, school isn't just about social activity.
I would urge you to with teachers you trust and your principal to understand why and then go from there.
2007-12-18 05:07:00
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answered by Anonymous
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You don't mention what it is that you were caught doing. Having been a teacher for 16 years, my experience has been that students who complain like this knew very well that whatever was they got caught doing was against the rules when they did it. Secondly, as a student, you don't really have very many rights. The school has the right to establish rules and regulations for it's student body as well as to enforce them in an effort to protect those within the school and to keep a certain sense of decorum and academia within the school. When you go to that school, you are given a copy of the rules and regulations and the possible consequences for breaking them. By attending, you are agreeing to abide by them. Therefore, if you choose to break one of the rules, you are choosing to suffer the consequence. If you don't like it, you can appeal through the school, but more than likely, you'll lose. So, yes, they do have the right to "do this," and, no, none of your rights are being violated.
2007-12-18 05:16:57
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answered by Anonymous
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There are no such things as "girlfriend rights" "friendship rights" or "sibling rights" and even if you assume there were many rights a person has as an adult you simple do not have as a student.
Schools have near limitless control over what goes on inside of the school. There are some things schools can not force you do while on school grounds like pray, but as for things they can tell you NOT to do while on school grounds it is pretty much limitless.
The only right you have to while on school grounds is to get an education. Anything else that happens while you are at school is at the discretion of the school board.
2007-12-18 05:17:45
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answered by The Teacher 6
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Yes. But when you step onto a high school campus you lose just about all of your rights.
Contact the ACLU they litigate these sorts of cases and have information about what legal rights high school students and others have. See the URL.
It is healthy and natural for human beings to seek physical contact with other human beings. Holding hands is not sodomy!
2007-12-18 05:36:23
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answered by Citizen1984 6
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Wow! All I can say is get you children out of the public school system as soon as possible. Morality and proper teachings are no longer being promoted and in fact are often discouraged. Check out the California School Boards' plans for 2008. What is in store for our future?
2007-12-18 05:52:04
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answered by Anonymous
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Show the school the RIDICULOUSNESS of the rule:
Have everyone (or almost everyone) agree to hold hands at all times. Form vast human chains when walking in the halls and during classes.
Find the teachers giving the most detentions, and say "thank you for keeping discipline in our school" and hug him or her.
2007-12-18 05:22:27
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answered by stay_fan2 4
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I'm sorry, what rights are being violated here? What does hugging, holding hands, rape, sodomy, mooning, and screwing have to do with being a student? You're there to learn. The school is trying to maintain a learning environment. That is their mission and duty to the community.
2007-12-18 05:08:41
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answered by thegubmint 7
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