What do these verses mean to you? Is Jesus Equal with God the Father or not?

Question

Philippians 2:5-11, "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

Is Jesus Equal with God the Father or not?

Answer 1

Yes, He is. The Bible more than supports that!
John chapter 1 - In the beginning was the Word; and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. ....... And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,.....
So there you have the Word being described as God, and then we are told the Word was made flesh and came to earth to live among us. Jesus did that. Therefore Jesus Christ is God. There are plenty of other passages like this one that clearly illustrate the deity of Jesus Christ, the fact that He is God, and the fact that the Trinity exists even though people say it doesn't (were they familiar with the real Bible they would know it to be true).

When Jesus came to earth, He willingly humbled Himself. He became a servant for us. It's like a king or prince disguising himself as a commoner so he could travel through his kingdom anonymously. He is still the king, or the prince, but he is willingly humbling himself. That is what Jesus did. But it in no way diminished the fact that He is God.



I wanted to respond to this too:
i personally dont beleive that Jesus and God are equal, the Bible gives scripture to support both sides but Jesus was Gods son, not God, and in Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."

To the person who wrote this - Jesus was testing that man when He asked this question. He wanted the man to ponder in his heart whether he knew Jesus to be God or not. It was not that Jesus was saying that He isn't God. It was more like a challenge to the man He was speaking with. Read your Bible, friend - read a good version like the KJB - and you will be able to come to no other conclusion but that Jesus Christ is God. It is in there so clearly that it cannot be denied without ignoring many, many portions of Scripture. You cannot build a doctrine based on one or two verses that you don't understand. That is how heresy is formed.

Answer 2

John 8:fifty 4-- Jesus is exercising humility right here. He continuously defers to the daddy. bypass right down to verses fifty seven and fifty 8, Jesus says that he's equivalent with the daddy and the Jews take in rocks to stone Him for blasphemy as a results of fact they don't have self assurance Him. Mark 12:29-- Jehovah our Elohim is one Jehovah. Jehovah is a novel be conscious. Elohim is plural. that's an intimation of the trinity. John 7:sixteen-- Jesus is lower back deferring to the daddy. i think of component of the clarification He does this is that He is familiar with the Jews honor the daddy. they don't likely understand Jesus yet, so He starts off with what they understand; this is that the old testomony is the comprehend God the daddy. it incredibly is all that they had lower back then. No New testomony yet. Matthew 19:17-- Jesus is touching on the reality that the wealthy youthful ruler does not yet comprehend Him as God. precise after that, He tells the ruler to sell all that he has, supply the revenue to the poor, and persist with Jesus, as a results of fact Jesus is God. the wealthy youthful ruler walks away regrettably. If he isn't God, then how did He develop Himself lower back from the lifeless? no one prayed over His corpse. He in simple terms walked out of the grave. exceptionally good for a guy that may not God.

Answer 3

Yes, Jesus is equal with God, because Jesus IS God. I like the way my pastor puts it- when we get to heaven, we're not going to see 3 thrones with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit sitting there. We're going to see Jesus. Jesus is the human manifestation of God. It is an odd thought- that God would submit to Himself. But God the Father is Spirit- Jesus was human. The human part of God (Jesus) submitted Himself to the Father. Nobody really understands the Trinity, but I have a vague perception of what it is. If we think of God as Spirit, or a sentient type of energy, you can understand that He can be everywhere at the same time, and He can manifest Himself either as a heavenly being in heaven, a human on the earth, or as an invisible presence to live inside of human beings. Whether He is in human form, or spirit form, or the invisible Holy Spirit residing in us, He is still the same God, and equal to Himself. Water can exist as liquid, gas(steam) or solid. But it is still H2O. God's a little like that.

Answer 4

The Bible speaks of a TRIUNE (3) God. The word Trinity came later. The Father is God. Jesus is God. The Holy Spirit is God. Three divine persons in the one God.Each person is fully God. You are not meant to understand the Trinity .It is beyond human understanding.It is a mystery.If you believe differently you are not a Christian.Simple as that.

Answer 5

The titles of God are given to Christ.

God the Father addresses the Son as God. Hebrews 1:8.
Men called Him God, and He did not refuse their worship. John 20:28.
Demons recognized Him as God. Mark 1:24.
He declared Himself to be God. John 10:30.

Answer 6

Nope.

Those passages were written by followers and combined by council, after a vote. Just because others believe Christ is the same as God, doesn't mean I have to believe it.

I always had a problem with the belief that Jesus was God incarnate. It was like "God Light". All the taste and none of the carbs. Might as well be Mohammad, or Buddha. Maybe it was. There are more similarities in religions, than differences.

I actually believe we all have the same God and the basic tenants, we just have different names for prophets.

All the books were written by men and skewed by politics, culture and norms. That's a heavy influence. I would like to see a set of documents given to various peoples of the world, in ancient Hebrew, say, and see what they translate and put together.

Answer 7

2:5
Verses 5-8 present one of the most signifigant statements in all of Scripture on the nature of the Incarnation, the fact that God became man. Through this wonderful description of Christ, Paul illustrates the principle of humility (vv 3,4 )

Let this mind be: All godly action begins with the "renewing of the mind". Right thinking produces right actions

In you: Thinking and being like Christ requires not only for an individual but also for the corporate body of believers. Together we need to think and act like one being, like person of Jesus Christ.

2:6
Robbery: Because Christ was God, He did not look on sharing God's nature as robbery, that is, as " a thing to be seized", as though He did not already posses it, or as " a thing to be retained", as though He might lose it.

Equal: This word speaks of equality of existence. Christ was fullyGod, but He limited Himself in such a way He that He could also be completely human. In Christ, God became human.

2:7
Made Himself no reputation: This phrase can be translated "He emptied Himself". Christ did this by taking on the form of a servant, a mere man. He did not empty Himself of any part of His essence of God. Instead, He gave up His privileges as God and took upon Himself existence as a man. While remaining completely God, He completely human.

Form: Paul does not say that Christ exchanged the form of God for the form of a servant, involving a loss of deity or the attributes of deity. Rather, in the Incarnation, Christ continued in the very nature of God but added to Himself the nature of a servant.

Bondservant: The term refers to the lowest status on the social ladder ( see Heb 10:5 ), the exact opposite of the term Lord, a tittle by which all will one day recognize the risen Christ. ( see v. 11 )

Likeness: This word does not mean that Christ only appeared to be a man. Rather, the term emphasizes identity. In reality He was a man, posessing all the essential aspects of a human being, although unlike others He was sinless.

2:8
Appearence: This is the third word Paul uses to show the Phillppians that Jesus christ who is fully God from all eternity is also fully man. The word appearance points to the external characteristics of Jesus: He had the bearing, actions and manners of a man.

He humbled Himself: Jesus willingly took the role of servant, no one forced Him to do it.

Obedient: Although He never sinned and did not deserve to die, He chose to die so that sins of the world could be charged to His account. Subsequencely He could credit His righteousness to the account lf all who believe in Him ( see 2 Cor 5:21, Gal 1:4 )

Even the death on the cross: Paul describes the depths of Christ's humiliation by reminding his readers that Christ died by the cruelest form of capital punishment, curucifixion. The Romans reserved the agonizing death of crucifixion for slaves and foreigners, and the Jews viewed death on a cross as a curse from God ( see Deut 21:23, Gal 3:13 )

2:9
Note the contrast between Jesus' placing Himself in a debased status ( v 8 ) with God the Father's elevation pf Jesus to a HIGHLY EXALTED status.

2:10
Every knee: Although all the people will one day worship Christ, only those who put their faith in Him in this life will have an everlasting relationship with Him after death ( Rev 20:13-15 )

Those under the earth: Paul refers here to those who will already have died at the time of Christ's return, in contrast to the angels in heaven and those who will be living on earth.

2:11
Confess: The trem Paul uses is strong, intensive verb, which means " agree with" or "say the same thing". Essentially Paul is saying that everyone will unanimously affirm what God Father has already stated ( Is 45:23 ) that Jesus Christ is Lord.

Yes, Jesus is equal with God the Father.

Answer 8

Your belief in the interpretation of this verse would be shaded by your religious background and prior mindset.

As a person who believes in the Trinity of God, I believe that God exist in three equal parts, the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ) and the Holy Spirit.

If your mindset was to believe in a singular god, with Jesus and his earthly servant, but still above all men, you could also make that interpretation fit.

Of course if you pull any single verse out of The Bible, and do not bother to study the word in its' entireity, then you could interpret any passage of the text to make it say almost anything you like.

Answer 9

Jesus is NOT equal to God. The passage explain this in clear terms. Although He was in the form of God (being a true reflection of God and only begotten son), he did not thought of making himself equal to God.

He subjected himself and suffered all what the passage said so "... that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of GOD THE FATHER."

Answer 10

Jesus is God. Every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is the Lord.