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2007-12-17 16:02:46 · 4 answers · asked by RG 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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1975 marked 6000 years since Adam's creation; anti-Witnesses sometimes pretend that Jehovah's Witnesses made "predictions" about 1975, but there is no real evidence to support their propaganda.
http://watchtower.org/e/20000622/

Regarding 1914, the Scriptures do show that Jesus sat on the throne of the Messianic Kingship that year. In hindsight, most of humankind can see the historic upheaval that began with World War I. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that mankind in general has seen a wide range of specific signs since 1914, and that anyone can perceive these as significant without even opening a bible.

Yet the bible DOES comment upon it! Jesus foretold this specific collection of signs as evidence that his "presence" or so-called 'second coming' had arrived. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that "presence" to be Jesus' presence as the King of God's Kingdom. Citations are from both New World Translation (NWT) and Youngs Literal Translation (YLT).

(Matthew 24:3, NWT) disciples approached [Jesus] privately, saying: "Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence
(Matthew 24:3, YLT) the disciples came near to [Jesus], saying, 'Tell us, when shall these be? and what is the sign of thy presence...?

(Luke 21:7,24, NWT) Teacher, when will these things actually be, and what will be the sign when these things are destined to occur?
(Luke 21:7,24, YLT) Teacher, when, then, shall these things be? and what is the sign when these things may be about to happen?'

Amazingly, since the 1870's, Jehovah's Witnesses had recognized 1914 as a significant year according to the chronology indicated in bible prophecy. Decades before 1914, Witnesses noted that Jesus' discussion of his second "coming", or second "presence" specifically mentions "the appointed times of the nations", which Jehovah's Witnesses believe to be a centuries-long period of relative godlessness when God's rulership through the Davidic kingship was interrupted (the line of hereditary kings beginning with King David of Israel). Jehovah's Witnesses recognize that the Davidic kingship ended in 607 BCE when Jerusalem fell to Babylon, and would begin again during the fulfillment of the composite "sign" of Matthew 24 and Luke 21.

(Luke 21:24, NWT) Jerusalem [or 'Davidic kingship'] will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled.
(Luke 21:24, YLT) Jerusalem [or 'Davidic kingship'] shall be trodden down by nations, till the times of nations be fulfilled.

How long would "the appointed times of the nations" last? Daniel chapter 4 contains a prophecy in which God's rulership, through the Davidic kings is represented by a "tree". That tree is kept down for "seven times", which seems to be seven periods of 360 "days" (See Rev 12:6,14). So Daniel 4:15 seems to be referring to 2520 "days" when God's governmental rulership would not be seen.

(Daniel 4:11-17, NWT) The tree grew up and became strong, and its very height finally reached the heavens, and it was visible to the extremity of the whole earth. ...14 He ["a holy one"] was calling out loudly, and this is what he was saying: "CHOP the tree down... 15 However, LEAVE its rootstock itself in the earth... let seven times pass over it. 17 ...that people living may know that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind and that to the one whom he wants to, he gives it and he sets up over it even the lowliest one of mankind.
(Daniel 4:11-17, YLT) Become great hath the tree, yea, strong, and its height doth reach to the heavens, and its vision to the end of the whole land...14 He ["a holy one"] is calling mightily, and thus hath said, Cut down the tree...15 but the stump of its roots leave in the earth...and seven times pass over him; 17 ...that the living may know that the Most High is ruler in the kingdom of men, and to whom He willeth He giveth it, and the lowest of men He doth raise up over it.



But in history, 2520 days is not a significant amount of time. Jehovah's Witnesses look to Scriptures such as Num 14:34 and Ez 4:6 and re-examine the history using 2520 YEARS instead. From 607 BCE to 1914 CE is 2520 years; so many significant things happened that year, and World War I was only one part!.

Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/dg/index.htm?article=article_09.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/lmn/index.htm?article=article_10.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/jt/index.htm?article=article_02.htm

2007-12-19 09:29:05 · answer #1 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 2 0

In 1914, Jesus was enthroned as King of Almighty God's promised Kingdom. The Kingdom promised at Daniel 2:44.
At that time also, those of the chosen 144,000 who had died were instantly resurrected to heaven to be with Jesus as judges with him.
(REVELATION 20:4) And I saw thrones, and there were those who sat down on them, and power of judging was given them. Yes, I saw the souls of those executed with the ax for the witness they bore to Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had worshiped neither the wild beast nor its image and who had not received the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand. And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for a thousand years.

These scriptures show that not all people who die go to heaven, as some religions teach.

Ecclesiastes 9; 5,6
Daniel 9: 25
Daniel 4: 16,23,25,32

CALCULATING THE “SEVEN TIMES”
“Seven times” = 7 X 360 = 2,520 years
A Biblical “time,” or year = 12 X 30 days = 360. (Rev. 11:2, 3; 12:6, 14)
In the fulfillment of the “seven times” each day equals one year. (Ezek. 4:6; Num. 14:34)
Early October, 607 B.C.E., to December 31, 607 B.C.E.= 1/4 year
January 1, 606 B.C.E., to December 31, 1 B.C.E. = 606 years
January 1, 1 C.E., to December 31, 1913 = 1,913 years
January 1, 1914, to early October, 1914 = 3/4 year
Total: 2,520 years
In the year 1876 the twenty-four-year-old Russell made a contribution on the subject to this magazine. It was published in Volume XXI, Number 1, which was the issue of October, 1876. On pages 27, 28 of that issue Russell’s article was published under the title “Gentile Times: When Do They End?” In that article (page 27) Russell said: “The seven times will end in A.D. 1914.”


1975???

2007-12-17 17:08:36 · answer #2 · answered by pugjw9896 7 · 1 0

Of note here, the Jews "believe" that "when" the Messiah comes the enemies of God's People will be destroyed (i.e. you, me and anyone who is not Jewish), as in Armageddon. It is one of the prevailing reasons why they do not believe Jesus was the Messiah. They made the mistake of thinking that the two events coincided, when in reality they didn't.

All modern Christians repeat the same error in believing the the Second Coming (though actually it translates as "presence") of the Messiah would coincide with the destruction of the enemies of God's People (non-Christians), when in reality they are two different events.

It has been only two days since Christ was born and less than two hours since his second presence was made evident to all humans through the fulfillment of prophesies of the Last Days. That of course is in terms of how those in the spirit realm experience time. One day for God is 1000 years for man.

The International Bible Students made the mistake of following the common beliefs of all Christians, by repeating the same mistake made by the Ancient Jews, that when Christ came, Armageddon would take place, but, they learned from that mistake.

The question now is when will the rest of Christianity learn it? Or, will they continue to follow the example set down by the Jews and continue to wait for something that has long since come to pass?

Ask yourself, "Are you also following the example of the ancient Jews?" Are you also still waiting for something that's already taken place?

2007-12-21 01:54:42 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Perhaps you could enlighten us...what did happen?.. Two 1914's..?

2007-12-17 16:21:27 · answer #4 · answered by conundrum 7 · 2 0

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