I agree with you. However, in my experience. Most people know the truth and choose to iqnore it. While we are at it so is halloween, and easter.
2007-12-17 13:07:12
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answered by Anonymous
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It's like putting "Christian" on the Religion field of your ID, just becasue you do it doesn't make you one.
Christianity is a personal relationship with Christ Jesus, not an occasion.
Christmas, on the other hand, is a tradition, occasion, event, holiday, whatever you want to call it.
Do you worship the Christmas tree? Do you have sex, get drunk, kill people for Christmas? Maybe we should scrutinize every other holiday, as it does appear to be some sort of idolatry or worship if you put it that way..
God didn't say "If you are Christian, you may not have fun." No! Just enjoy life the right way.
If you are 'Christian' and celebrate Christmas, it does not make you evil. Unless you intentionally use it as an excuse to commit sin.
If you are 'Christian' and do not celebrate Christmas, it doesn't matter either. That's your choice.
The point is that you are a Believer of Christ and have a developing relationship with Him, everything else is doctrine.
2007-12-17 13:21:04
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answered by Leo 1
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There are times when the abysmal ignorance of the Catholic bashers on this Forum either leaves me stunned into silence or giggling hysterically. At the moment, I'm torn between the two.
Are you serious when you say that Catholics got drunk, feasted, had sexual extravaganzas (by that, I assume you mean "orgies"), and then killed an innocent person on the 25th of December? Because if you are, you have either been reading entirely too many Jack Chick tracts or else there's something considerably stronger than just eggs in your eggnog.
Sorry to burst your little Catholic-bashing bubble, but we Catholics have never celebrated one of the two holiest days in our calendar -- the commemoration of our Lord Jesus' birth -- in the manner you just described. And while the Bible may not mention birthdays, it also doesn't have much to say about electricity, computers, cars, Chex mix, and a number of other things that some of us have learned to enjoy.
Please, put down the Alexander Hyslop book and back away slowly. You're going to do yourself some permanent damage if you keep ingesting that Hy. . .slop.
2007-12-17 13:16:40
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answered by Wolfeblayde 7
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It's important to remember that it wasn't JUST the church that adopted these traditions; it was also the Pagans who converted to Christianity. They brought their traditions with them when they converted.
And it's also important to remember that the pagans didn't CALL their holiday Christmas. They called it Yule or Winter Solstice, I think. So they did not celebrate Christmas; they celebrated Yule. So while some of the Christmas traditions came from paganism, it is not technically a pagan holiday. YULE was the pagan holiday, and Christmas is the Christian one.
Anyways though, it doesn't really matter where Christmas came from. In my opinion it's a Christian holiday now, but I do acknowledge it does have pagan roots (but then again, many many many things these days have pagan roots). But because of that I think anyone can celebrate Christmas if they choose too.
2007-12-17 13:15:55
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answered by Anonymous
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Uh...yeah...and wearing wedding rings and saying "bless you" to someone when they sneeze is also Pagan. There are so many things the Pagans did that if we were to avoid every one of them we would not be able to live. For many years I did not put a Chrstmas tree in my house because the Pagans worshipped the tree at this time of the year. But one could also reason the Jesus died on a cross (tree), and the green color of the tree symbolizes the growth of a healthy spiritual life of the Christian. The tree also points up toward the heavens and directs attention to God. So you see, anybody can take anything and make it mean anything they want. Therefore, just bacause Pagans celebrated their wicked holiday in December does not mean that Christians should abolish the celebration the birth of the Savior in December.
2007-12-17 13:18:50
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answered by Anonymous
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"The well-known solar feast of Natalis Sol Invicti, the nativity of the unconquered sun, celebrated on 25 December, has a strong claim on the responsibility for our December date."
- The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume 3, page 727
See also Rev.11:10; Jeremiah 10:2-6 and Genesis 40:20-22 (Pharoahs Birthday party); Matthew 14:6-10 (Herod's Birthday party). Should we as Yisraelites be celebrating B-days? Chr-st-mass? Or any hol-i-days according to the world?
Or should we edify ourselves with His times, His HOLY days:
Passover Day
Days of Unleavened Bread
Feast of Weeks
Feast of Trumpets
Day of Atonement
Feast of Tabernacles
Last Great Day
Let each man be convinced in his own mind.
2007-12-17 13:27:53
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answered by Anonymous
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Jeremiah is a book from the Old Testament- So celebrating the Birth of the Messiah by adorning a tree with silver and gold is obviously not what this passage is speaking of. If you read the Chapter in it's entirety God is warning against looking to the Stars for Answers and worshiping false idols. He is warning against people who chart the stars to read the future. This is a book about God and his views about Idols.
2016-05-24 10:42:10
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes, many of the customs of Christmas have their origins in pagan holidays. Yes, even the date is around the time of many pagan festivals. This does not detract from the fact that it has been a day to celebrate the birth of Christ for over a millennium. No, it's not the actual day He was born. No one knows that date exactly, although it's probably some time in the spring. If someone wants to celebrate a different holiday at the same time, I'm fine with it, but I'm going to use the day as it has been used for quite some time.
2007-12-17 13:08:25
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answered by Anonymous
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This may be considered controversial...so, I'm waiting for all the thumbs down... ;-) but to say that the druids (a.k.a. pagans) were purported to be the first ones who started bringing trees into their homes at their pagan holiday--is ridiculous. Consider: Why would the druids (who worshipped trees) *CUT* one down, bring it inside and put lights on it? So... we are to believe that the druids killed what they worshipped? Not likely.
My great-great-great-great (I don't know how many greats...) grandparents were in Eastern Germany in the same town at the same time Martin Luther was. It has always been passed down in my family that Martin Luther was the first person to *cut* down a tree, bring it inside and put lights on it to symbolize the Light of the World being born on Christmas. It was to symbolize to the world that even at the darkest time of the year, Jesus can still shine forth and bring Light even into the darkest soul--if invited to.
This lie about how the Christmas tree began is just one reason I believe the entire mess about Christmas being started to replace a pagan holiday (I've only heard this theory for the last 10-12 years) is also a lie. I feel that it is a lie that was meant to try to rob Christians of the joy of celebrating our dear Lord and Savior's birth.
The Bible says that that the angels, shepherds and wise men all celebrated Jesus' birth. The wise men even brought *gifts*. ;-) Christians also believe that Jesus was the most wonderful and perfect gift that God the Father gave to the world the very first Christmas--no matter when that was. Thus, we celebrate that gift (Jesus) while doing our best to imitate our Heavenly Father by giving loving gifts to others.
IMHO, celebrating "Santa" has helped confuse the issue for Christians as well. Instead of focusing on the gift of Jesus--Santa shifts our focus to material things. Also, if we lie to our children about Santa being real...when they find out the truth about Santa, will they think/believe that we are lying about a Savior being born and dying for their sins as well? If you compare the two, both Jesus and Santa are unseen. Both are celebrated at Christmas. If our children are told to believe in both--then later are told we were only *pretending* that Santa is real—he’s really not… What about Jesus? They may think he's just pretend as well. It can be quite confusing to a child who thinks logically.
Whatever a Christian chooses to do about celebrating Christmas—please remember, "The Joy of the Lord is our strength," Nehemiah 8:10. Do not let the evil one rob us of the joy God has given us through Jesus our Savior. This joy should ideally be celebrated all year long--and at Christmas.
Blessings this Christmas to all! :-)
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2007-12-17 14:36:30
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answered by oooooolala! 5
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You speak with some degree of accuracy !!!
Churches in England were built over witchcraft sites !!! Changing to christian dates may not be the accurate thing to do !!! But it did help convert a pagan world to christian ideas !!! The unfortunate sidebar to this is that it also made the Jews the enemy because of the biblical narrative of the Crucifixion !!! That is the trouble with making laws there is some side thing that is not covered accurately !!! Martin Luther hating the Jews !!! Bad scene !!! We all need forgiveness for some misadventuress doctrines !!!
God forgive us for we know not what we do !!!
2007-12-17 13:15:15
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answered by rapturefuture 7
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actually many Christians do in fact celebrate Christmas as the birthday of christ, yet christ was really born in Spring, but it doesn't matter what day they celebrate his birth, they can do what they want, and people get drunk, killed, and have sex every day so there isn't a "holy" day. And some others, like me, just celebrate Christmas for the fun. In fact, I'm an atheist, and my beliefs are really close to paganism, yet I love Christmas for the tradition and the excuse to be ridiculously selfish once a year.
2007-12-17 13:08:11
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answered by kperk_56 2
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