Is there a clear basis in scripture for the doctine of the trinity?

Question

please provide evidence of the scriptural authenticity of any verses used

Answer 1

Nope.

There is no such teaching, not even implied in the Bible.

Most of the verses they quote just show that the Father, the Son and the holy spirit do exist. But where does it say the THREE are EQUAL?

1 John 5:7 is spurious, it doesn't count. I'm sure if they could, they would have inserted another chapter!!!

Answer 2

No there isn't. The bible does not mention anything of the sort, it mentions the father the son and the holy spirit, but nowhere does it say that these are one! Its pathetic, really!

However, there are appears to be hundreds of reasons why its a false teaching!

1 John says: "For there are three witness bearers". Yeah, read the context!!! Lol, its completely irrelevant!!!

What's really stupid is that the scriptures they use to prove the trinity disprove the trinity! - Its total madness!

For example, one scripture they use to prove the trinity says "the father, the son and the holy spirit". Oh, because there are three mentioned it proves the trinity! Yeah, ok!

Because there are three mentioned, it proves that the three are seperate otherwise it would have just said "god"! Duh!!!!

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Answer 3

No. How could there be a Scriptural basis for the trinity when it was not invented by the Catholic Church until the middle of the 4th century? As A Catholic Dictionary notes: “The third Person was asserted at a Council of Alexandria in 362 . . . and finally by the Council of Constantinople of 381.”

The trinity doctrine includes the following definite ideas:

1. There are said to be three divine persons—the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit—in the Godhead.

2. Each of these separate persons is said to be eternal, none coming before or after the other in time.

3. Each is said to be almighty, with none greater or lesser than the other.

4. Each is said to be omniscient, knowing all things.

5. Each is said to be true God.

6. However, it is said that there are not three Gods but only one God.

Search as you may, you will not find one scripture that uses the word Trinity, nor will you find any that says that Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom. Not even a single scripture says that the Son is equal to the Father in those ways—and if there were such a scripture, it would establish not a Trinity but at most a “duality.” Nowhere does the Bible equate the holy spirit with the Father.

Hey, Schneb, read below!

"If you do not believe that Jesus is God come in the flesh, then you are sharing the bed with many cults and religions, and not Christianity."

Your statement above proves that you don't know what the trinity is. Allow me--a "cultist"--to explain: "In a nutshell, there is one God, eternally existing in three persons: Father, Son (Jesus Christ) and Holy Spirit. The three persons of the Godhead are coequal and co-eternal."
http://www.allaboutgod.com/trinity-doctrine.htm

As the trinity definition says, God is composed of THREE co-equal, co-eternal persons. But you say Jesus is God. What does that have to to with "a unity of THREE" or trinity. I counted Jesus as one person, NOT three.

So, if Jesus is God, what does that have to do with a God that is composed of the Father AND the Son AND the holy spirit? Is Jesus by himself God, or is the trinity God? You can't have it both ways

You have 3 possible choices. If Jesus by himself is God, as you say, then the trinity is NOT God. If the trinity is God, then Jesus by himself is NOT God. Your best choice is to read what Jesus himself said at John 17:3, where he said that the Father is the ONLY true God.

Glad I could help.

Answer 4

No...the trinity is NOT supported in the Bible and the reason is that it is not taught in the Bible

In fact, many scriptures trinitarians use to support the trinity actually DISPROVE the doctrine. All they have to do is examine the scripture deeper. Interesting.

Answer 5

No. The Trinity doctrine is not a Bible teaching.It is a pagan teaching that was fused in with apostate Christianity in the fourth century CE.

Answer 6

No!
Socinians, as they later came to be called, wanted most of all to restore the pure Christianity taught in the Bible. They felt that the Protestant Reformation had merely skimmed off some of the corruption and rituals from the Catholic Church while leaving its rotten core, its unbiblical teachings, quite intact.

Like the religions around them, they were guilty of many errors. Still, of all the religions of the Reformation, this rivulet of Socinianism adhered to the Bible more than most.

Why Did They Reject the Trinity?

Like Servetus before them, though, the Socinians were most renowned for rejecting the churches’ teaching on the Trinity. Why did they? Their reasoning followed two lines. First and foremost, they saw that it was unscriptural.

“In place of a doctrine whose very terms—Trinity, hypostasis, person, substance, essence—were not taken from the Bible but invented by philosophers, and whose Christ was little more than a philosophical abstraction, he wished to get men to put their faith in a living God, in a divine Christ who had been a historical reality, and in a Holy Spirit forever working in the hearts of men.” He believed the three were one only in the sense of John 17:21 and considered holy spirit to be God’s active force, not a person.

Further, the Socinians found the doctrine’s so-called Scriptural supports to be quite weak. The favorite scripture of Trinitarians, 1 John 5:7, was already well-known as a corrupted text, a later and uninspired addition to the Bible. The other, John 1:1, makes sense only when understood as calling Christ “divine,” or “a god,” instead of making him the same as almighty God.

The most devastating blow to the Trinity, though, was that the Bible’s very description of God, Jesus, and holy spirit makes the membership of each of them in any trinity quite impossible. How so? Well, first of all, holy spirit is shown in the Bible to be not a person at all but, rather, God’s active force. (Luke 1:41; Acts 10:38) Second, Christ could not be “coequal and coeternal” with the Father, since the Bible describes him as subordinate to his Father and as having been created by Him. (John 14:28; Colossians 1:15) Finally, how could Jehovah, so often described as the one God, actually be part of a threefold deity? Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah 44:6.

Thus, on Biblical grounds the Socinians refuted the Trinity. But they also rejected it on the grounds of pure reason. According to a historian of the Reformation: “Socinus held that . . . although [the Bible] may contain things above reason, it does not contain anything contrary to reason.” The Trinity, with its contradictory notions of one god who is at the same time three persons, clearly fell into the latter category.

The Minor Reformed Church (as Socinians were officially called) flourished in Poland for nearly a hundred years. At their peak they numbered up to 300 congregations. They established a colony at Raków, northeast of Kraków, set up a printing press, and founded a university that attracted respected teachers and students from far and wide. From their press poured some 500 different pamphlets, books, and tracts in some 20 languages. Missionaries and traveling students secretively spread these all over Europe.

Hated as they were by Catholics and Protestants alike, though, the Socinians were not to remain at peace for long. Socinus himself was attacked, beaten, mobbed, and nearly drowned for his beliefs. Even before his death in 1604, the Jesuits, bent on reestablishing the Catholic Church’s supremacy in Poland, had slowly begun to insinuate their way into positions of influence with the king.

Persecution of the Socinians began to increase. In 1611 a wealthy Socinian was stripped of his property and sentenced to have his tongue cut off, to be beheaded, to have a hand and a foot cut off, and then to be burned. Of course, he could live on in peace if he would just change his religion. He wouldn’t budge. He faced his execution unwaveringly in the Warsaw marketplace.

Socinian writings continued to exert influence. The Racovian Catechism, founded on Socinus’ writings and published shortly after his death, was translated into English by John Biddle in 1652. Parliament had copies seized and burned and had Biddle thrown into prison. Although released for a time, he was again put in prison and died there.

But arguments against the Trinity would not die so easily in England, where many learned and reasonable men saw their Scriptural truth. Sir Isaac Newton, one of the greatest scientists in all of history, refuted the Trinity in his writings and is sometimes called a Socinian. Joseph Priestley, famous chemist and the discoverer of oxygen, was also called a Socinian. John Milton, the great poet, renounced the Trinity.

Answer 7

I have listed many of the appropriate scriptures here...
http://schnebin.blogspot.com/2006/05/trinity.html

If you do not believe that Jesus is God come in the flesh, then you are sharing the bed with many cults and religions, and not Christianity.
http://schnebin.blogspot.com/2007/04/strange-bedfellows.html

If you do not believe in the trinity, you are going to run in to some major scriptural contradictions.
http://schnebin.blogspot.com/2007/03/who-is-first-and-last.html
http://schnebin.blogspot.com/2007/03/who-rose-jesus-from-dead.html

Answer 8

1 jon: 5:7