Can Anybody Prove The Trinity Theory Using The Bible?

Question

No one can prove it!

Thanks D.S.

I thought most scriptures you quoted disproved the trinity rather than proved it!

HOWEVER, I now understand why you think this. Because god said "let us", "we", etc suggesting that there are several in one.

But what if me and my brother go somewhere together and I say "let us go down there", does that mean that we are one person?

What if god was talking to the angels when he said "let us", then it would be the "infinity" theory!

Thanks for explaining anyway mate, at least you answered!!

I still think its far more logical to think that god and Jesus are individuals! I don't think the holy spirit is actually a person either!

I mean, the theory is just nuts!

Oh, by the way, the Jehovah's witnesses bible is the same as the catholic bible, only it says "Jehovah" instead of "lord". But everybody knows that that is correct! "YHWH" does not transliterate as "lord" and you guys know it!

Answer 1

Making God one of three co-equal “persons” takes from Him His exalted position as the Only True God, the Creator of the universe, the Author of the plan of Salvation, the Father of Jesus Christ, and our one God.

Besides robbing God of His exalted position as God supreme, believing that Jesus is God also demeans him.

One cannot appreciate how great Jesus really was until you make an effort to live like he did for even one day. His courage, mental tenacity, love and great faith are unparalleled in human history. His true greatness is lost if you believe he is God, for “with God all things are possible.” Believing Jesus is God also demeans God because Jesus himself said, “my Father is greater than I.”

Believing that Christ is God also means that he could not have sinned [which makes sense given that “God” cannot sin]. Christ must have been able to sin, for Scripture says he was “tempted in every way just as we are.” Christ went through life like each human does, with doubts, fears and concerns, and with the possibility of sin. To believe that Jesus could not have sinned makes it impossible for us to identify with him.

By restoring the Father to His unique and singular position as God, we give Him all the worship, credit, respect and awe He deserves as the One True God.

By restoring Christ to his position as the man accredited by God, the only-begotten Son of the Father, the Last Adam, the one who could have sinned but voluntarily stayed obedient, the one who could have given up but loved us so much that he never quit, the one whom God highly exalted to be our Lord, which we can then draw great strength and determination from his examples.

Answer 2

There are many theological terms or words used that are not in the Bible. A main reason for that is that a word like trinity is an English one and not one of the original Bible languages such as Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic. The Bible does not prove the trinity concept wrong only people's interpretations do. The trinity has been a foundational belief since the beginning of the New Testament church. The majority of the early church fathers or leaders writings prove that. Jesus is not the Father he is the second person of the godhead. Genisis 1:26 clearly states, "Let US make man in OUR image" and according to OUR likeness". It's there from the get go. I won't show more examples because it would take way too long here.

Answer 3

That cannot be done because the trinity was invented by the Catholic Church over 300 AFTER the Bible was completed. As A Catholic Dictionary notes: “The third Person was asserted at a Council of Alexandria in 362 . . . and finally by the Council of Constantinople of 381”

What do other research sources say?

The Illustrated Bible Dictionary records: "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible. . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century."

The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits that the Trinity "is not. . . directly and immediately the word of God."
The Encyclopedia of Religion And Ethics records: At first the Christian Faith was not Trinitarian. . . It was not so in the apostolic and sub-apostolic ages, as reflected in the New Testament and other early Christian writings."

The Encyclopedia of Religion admits: "Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity."

The New Catholic Encyclopedia also admits: "The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament."

The New Catholic Encyclopedia notes: "The formulation 'one god in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. . . Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective."

So, how can you use the Bible to prove something that did not exist until AFTER the completion of the Bible?

Answer 4

The most difficult thing about the Christian concept of the Trinity is that there is no way to adequately explain it. The Trinity is a concept that is impossible for any human being to fully understand, let alone explain. God is infinitely greater than we are, therefore we should not expect to be able to fully understand Him. The Bible teaches that the Father is God, that Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. The Bible also teaches that there is only one God. Though we can understand some facts about the relationship of the different persons of the Trinity to one another, ultimately, it is incomprehensible to the human mind. However, this does not mean it is not true or not based on the teachings of the Bible.

Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word "Trinity" is not used in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God, the fact that there are 3 coexistent, co-eternal persons that make up God. Understand that this is NOT in any way suggesting 3 Gods. The Trinity is 1 God made up of 3 persons. There is nothing wrong with using the term "Trinity" even though the word is not found in the Bible. It is shorter to say the word "Trinity" than to say "3 coexistent, co-eternal persons making up 1 God." If this presents a problem to you, consider this: the word grandfather is not used in the Bible either. Yet, we know there were grandfathers in the Bible. Abraham was the grandfather of Jacob. So don't get hung up on the term "Trinity" itself. What should be of real importance is that the concept that is REPRESENTED by the word "Trinity" does exist in Scripture. With the introduction out of the way, Bible verses will be given in discussion of the Trinity.

1) There is one God: Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5.

2) The Trinity consists of three Persons: Genesis 1:1; 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8; 48:16; 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17; Matt 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14. In the passages in the Old Testament, a knowledge of Hebrew is helpful. In Genesis 1:1, the plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for "us" is used. That "Elohim" and "us" refer to more than two is WITHOUT question. In English, you only have two forms, singular and plural. In Hebrew, you have three forms: singular, dual, and plural. Dual is for two ONLY. In Hebrew, the dual form is used for things that come in pairs like eyes, ears, and hands. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun "us" are plural forms - definitely more than two - and must be referring to three or more (Father, Son, Holy Spirit).

In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of 3 distinct persons in the Trinity.

3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages: In the Old Testament, "LORD" is distinguished from "Lord" (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The "LORD" has a "Son" (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). Spirit is distinguished from the "LORD" (Numbers 27:18) and from "God" (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament, John 14:16-17 is where Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit. This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all of the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another person in the Trinity - the Father.

4) Each member of the Trinity is God: The Father is God: John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2. The Son is God: John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God: Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16 (The One who indwells is the Holy Spirit - Romans 8:9; John 14:16-17; Acts 2:1-4).

5) The subordination within the Trinity: Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship, and does not deny the deity of any person of the Trinity. This is simply an area which our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see: Luke 22:42; John 5:36; John 20:21; 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see: John 14:16; 14:26; 15:26; 16:7 and especially John 16:13-14.

6) The tasks of the individual members of the Trinity: The Father is the ultimate source or cause of: 1) the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); 2) divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); 3) salvation (John 3:16-17); and 4) Jesus' human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father INITIATES all of these things.

The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: 1) the creation and maintenance of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17); 2) divine revelation (John 1:1; Matthew 11:27; John 16:12-15; Revelation 1:1); and 3) salvation (2 Corinthians 5:19; Matthew 1:21; John 4:42). The Father does all these things through the Son, who functions as His agent.

The Holy Spirit is the means by whom the Father does the following works: 1) creation and maintenance of the universe (Genesis 1:2; Job 26:13; Psalm 104:30); 2) divine revelation (John 16:12-15; Ephesians 3:5; 2 Peter 1:21); 3) salvation (John 3:6; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:2); and 4) Jesus' works (Isaiah 61:1; Acts 10:38). Thus the Father does all these things by the power of the Holy Spirit.

None of the popular illustrations are completely accurate descriptions of the Trinity. The egg (or apple) fails in that the shell, white, and yolk are parts of the egg, not the egg in themselves. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not parts of God, each of them is God. The water illustration is somewhat better but still fails to adequately describe the Trinity. Liquid, vapor, and ice are forms of water. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not forms of God, each of them is God. So, while these illustrations may give us a picture of the Trinity, the picture is not entirely accurate. An infinite God cannot be fully described by a finite illustration. Instead of focusing on the Trinity, try to focus on the fact of God's greatness and infinitely higher nature than our own. "Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?" (Romans 11:33-34)

Answer 5

I do not need to prove it. It is sufficient to demonstrate that Jesus is God, the Trinity follows naturally on. And it is easy to prove that Jesus is God from the Bible. Rather than quote you proof texts here is a summary of why I believe Jesus is God come in the flesh.
His name is a clue: Yah is saviour, but Jesus is our saviour. Another of his names is Immanuel, God is with us. His name is above every name, what is the name above every name? YHWH.
Jesus is worshipped throughout the Bible, look at the Greek word for worship in a concordance and see how many times people "proskuneo" before Jesus. Look at the fourth and fifth chapters of Revelation, where Jesus is given the same worship as God. Jesus is creator, God says he is the only creator, if Jesus is not God then he cannot have created all things. His disciples call him God, John in John 1:1 and Thomas in John 20:28 are probably the clearest, but there are several other occasions. Jesus claims the "I am" title of God for himself, why did the men who had come to arrest him fall to the ground when he said "I am"? Why did the Jews want to stone him when he said "before Abraham was, I am"? It says that they knew he was making himself equal with God. As C S Lewis once said, Jesus is either mad, bad or God, there is no other alternative. If Jesus is God then the concept of the Trinity dos a reasonable job of explaining how this can be. Please message me for further information.

Answer 6

True.
Thanks for asking this question. No one ever answers when I ask. I'll keep checking.

May we remind them that we are not wondering whether the Father, Son and holy spirit are mentioned in the Bible. Of course they are.

But where does it say the THREE are CO-EQUAL? We need a verse that shows that. So far D.S and Schneb have not shown that.

??- where in the BIBLE does it talk of God being like a clover leaf?

Hey- I like the "Infinity", I always kept it a bit smaller at "billionity"!!

I have asked Nina 50 times, she will not show me where in the Bible? These answers here have not proved the trinity. Would I be assuming wrongly to guess that she too does not know???

Answer 7

Isaiah43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. 2 Timothy 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel: Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Answer 8

The word Trinity is not in the Bible but the triune character of God is throughout the Bible.

Sorry, I am not going to explain it to you, you already have great answers here. You need to prove this matter to yourself.

However, you cannot understand it without the help of Holy Spirit of God. If you blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, you become like for example JWs, they do not believe in the Trinity. They are deceived by Satan.

Answer 9

Of course not. No one can prove the Trinity theory by merely using the Bible.
There are some Physicists who accept the concept of the wave-particle duality of matter, so on that basis, the Theory would seem a reasonable proposition.

Answer 10

Deuteronomy 6:4 - "Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah."

Mark 12:29-31 - "Jesus answered: “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah, and you must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind and with your whole strength.’ The second is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

John 20:17 - "Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God.’"

Jehovah God is the God of Jesus... interesting... huh...

1 Timothy 2:5 - "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,"

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